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Old 05-05-2010, 07:15 PM   #16
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Got it!...almost!
It's made by Zinsser, but the name of the product is so "not having to do with the application" that it keeps falling out of my head
And though it is now (as of moments ago) being carried by my Favorite Paint Store, it's so new to them that the staff may not know they carry it...I'm sure the "Garden Center" (of said store) doesn't yet know regardless...
I think it's for bird baths (not plastic as in liners)...but I may be over there tomorrow as it might rain in the afternoon and I need product so I can find out for sure

They do a fair bit of online sales so if the product works for fish pond liners I'll post up the website/purchase info

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Old 05-06-2010, 03:54 PM   #17
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I cleaned out the pond yesterday and took some photos in the process so you can see how bad the situation really is...






And this is the pump/filter that I took out of it...clearly it wasn't doing much.




So even if I paint it white or the tarp idea works, I've still got to do something about the solid green water and the coating of scum on everything. I asked at the local hardware store about what I could do and they recommended a much larger filtration system (which seems kind of unnecessary for such a small pond) or a sort of waterfall system where the water would get filtered up through a tube and then run back down into the pond, getting cleaned in the process. Either way would not be cheap at all ($200.00+) and since I started one too many projects this year, I've got to fix this on a shoestring budget.

I'm not sure how the fish even survived in there, but there were 10 or so still swimming around when I emptied it down to the bottom. I filled it up with completely clean water but already the entire thing is cloudy and murky again because of the algae and other junk on the sides that came loose while pouring the buckets of fresh water in.

So again, any solutions (particularly cheap/easy ones) would be much appreciated!
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Old 05-08-2010, 05:45 PM   #18
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No offense...but yuch!
Yeah you need a bit more help than paint
I suspect the hardware store people were correct, but I'd take show these pics to some garden center (that carries ponds, pumps, and filters) and see what they say
I don't know, maybe there's some additive you can put in there or something
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And unfortunately I don't think the paint I was thinking of would work for you anyway
It's called Watertite, and it says it's for fish ponds, but after a careful reading of the label it doesn't say plastic anywhere
I think it's only for cement fish ponds, sorry
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Old 05-09-2010, 06:39 PM   #20
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If you wanted to paint your plastic fish pond, Mural Mate, made by Lifeguard pool paints would work and it is non toxic, its designed for underwater murals, logos and will adhere to concrete, fiberglass and plastic, it is also chemical safe
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Rubber roofing material is available in white. No paint involved, reline your ponds.

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Sorry to have to say this mate but that is an algae problem not a detritus problem. Though detritus is going to be a part of it. This is going to be because of sunlight combined with Nitrates and Phosphates from food and fish waste which is what the algae feeds on.

You don't need to paint anything. You need to get a bigger filter, consider biological (water plants) filtration, look at a big UV Sterilizer, reduce the number of fish in there, and get on a weekly/bi-weekly water change system. If you do that you will see clean water.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:37 PM   #23
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I ended up emptying out the pond entirely, putting a white tarp in it, weighing it down with rocks and then refilling it with clean water. The effect isn't too bad, although there is some extra tarp around the sides that i'm not sure what to do with yet. I know the water will turn green soon enough though, so I'm still looking for a solution. I went to another garden store and asked about watercress or underwater plants that could help with the algae and they told me they wouldn't have any for another few months but suggested I get a UV sterilizer instead.

Their cheapest UV sterilizer was $189.99 though and is designed for ponds over 1,000 gallons, which is more than I want to spend and more than I need...I think my pond is somewhere between 75 and 150 gallons, maybe 200 at most.

Does anyone know if there are less expensive UV sterilizers designed for smaller ponds like the one I've got? I asked the clerk at the garden store this and he told me he didn't think so, but I think he may have just been saying that in order to get me to buy from his store.
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I've had 2 ponds for the last 15 years - put plants in there! If I turn my pumps of during the winter when the weather warms up I'll get an algae bloom, but if I leave them on they stay clear. You need to cover 60 - 75% of the surface to keep the algae down, then let it balance itself. You need some muck in the bottom along with fish and plants - if you want a perfectly clean pond down to the bottom you'll need some exceptionally good filter systems; you'd have to check with a pond specialist.
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Just an update in case anyone's still interested:

So as I said in my last post, I ended up going with the white tarp idea; it has more or less the same effect as the sides of the pond being painted white, it just doesn't look as neat and tidy. I also fixed the algae/solid green water issue by adding a gravel filtration system.

Here's the finished product:



Now the problem is just that green gunk has built up all over the sides, turning the interior of the pond (mostly) black/dark again. The water is clear now, but the pond looks dirty and it's harder to see the fish because the sides are so gunked up. Here's what I mean...this was 12 days later:



So does anyone know of any way to fix this and to get the sides to stay (at least mostly) white? I can clean the tarp and put it back in so it's white again, but that takes an incredible amount of time and it's just dirty again less than 2 weeks later so I don't see a whole lot of point.
As always, suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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