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cody21 11-26-2012 12:22 PM

Painting over wallpaper that was (mostly) removed ?
 
So the previous owner had this horrible wallpaper - actually installed it on top of another layer of wallpaper. We have removed the wallpaper - it actually came of much easier than anticipated. However what remained were "edges" of glue and older wallpaper. So we scraped and sanded as much as we could and have it much cleaner. However there are still some 'edges' that will probably show if we just paint over it now.

What is teh best way to paint this? Should we put a thin layer of Wallpaper mud and sand that first? Could we just apply a thick layer of PRIMER paint to it? Sand THAT then paint?

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

user1007 11-26-2012 01:25 PM

If you are absolutely certain you have tried everything to get the remaining paste and paper scraps off---wetting it, steaming it, etc.---and it just will not come off? You are not throwing in the towel too early?

I guess you could prime with Gardz to seal it. Then skim coat to even out those areas so they do not show like linear seams, sand, prime again and then paint.

cody21 11-26-2012 01:38 PM

Well, we really didn't want to go the "steam" approach - we just don't have the equipment and don't want to have to rent one for just 1 wall. Hadn't considered "wetting it" ... I think the stuff that is left is probably the glue -- it is spotty and almost a light gray. So "wetting it"? With a Sponge? Let sit for a while or what is the process?

I thought Gardz is strictly for exposed/ripped drywall. We only have a small (1x2') section of drywall that had the surface ripped off - hoping that a layer or 2 of Primer would address that section ... So you're suggesting to apply GARDZ over the entire area and that should SEAL it?

thanks for the input.

chrisn 11-26-2012 04:38 PM

http://www.wallpaperinstaller.com/wa...stripping.html

After removing all the paper that is going to come off, apply the Gardz to the whole wall.Let it dry well, then you will need to skim coat with joint compound ( not Wallpaper mud:eek: whatever that is), let it dry, sand, clean and repeat the skimming process until smooth. Apply the Gardz again( it IS a primer) apply 2 finish coats and it's done.

cody21 11-26-2012 06:20 PM

thank you ... (also for clarifying "mud") ... :-)

I went to Home Depot and they don't carry that Gardz sealer ... so the search goes on for it.

toastandjam 11-26-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cody21 (Post 1061042)
thank you ... (also for clarifying "mud") ... :-)

I went to Home Depot and they don't carry that Gardz sealer ... so the search goes on for it.


Will have to get it from a real hardware/paint store

ToolSeeker 11-26-2012 09:13 PM

You don't say where you are but where I am in central Fl. it is also very hard to find. I finally found it at a little out of the way paint store. I just finished the same job you are doing and yes you need Gardz. My suggestion when you go to skim coat use the new ultra lite mud. It has a puke green colored lid. Not the bright green lid that is all purpose. You don't even have to thin this mud just stir and apply it's great for skimming.

user1007 11-26-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1061175)
You don't say where you are but where I am in central Fl. it is also very hard to find. I finally found it at a little out of the way paint store. I just finished the same job you are doing and yes you need Gardz. My suggestion when you go to skim coat use the new ultra lite mud. It has a puke green colored lid. Not the bright green lid that is all purpose. You don't even have to thin this mud just stir and apply it's great for skimming.

A paint store that carries Zinser products should be able to get some in for you in a day or two. As a last resort, you can order online. Many places have free super saver shipping or free for orders over $50---even for paint.

ltd 11-26-2012 09:23 PM

hopefully the edges you talk about dont have seam glue or white elmers glue that i run into every now and then:mad:.

ToolSeeker 11-26-2012 10:21 PM

SDS the problem where I am is they said you have to order a case. Let me tell you a story, even the big box store wouldn't order it. I found it at a small paint store that would order it for me at $150 for a 5er I went back to HD and they said they couldn't order it to the store but they could order it and have it sent to my house $110 no shipping. Go figure.:wallbash:

user1007 11-27-2012 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1061287)
SDS the problem where I am is they said you have to order a case. Let me tell you a story, even the big box store wouldn't order it. I found it at a small paint store that would order it for me at $150 for a 5er I went back to HD and they said they couldn't order it to the store but they could order it and have it sent to my house $110 no shipping. Go figure.:wallbash:

Just looked at Amazon, just to start, and a bunch of places will ship it.


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