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Old 06-02-2013, 03:35 PM   #1
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Hey guys I built this shelf to go under my tv and I thought it would be a good time to stain it yesterday while I was drinkin and bbqin and its all jacked up. The stain I used had the varnish built in. Of was one of those two in one deals. Do I gotta sand that drug off before painting it or will the paint stick as it sits right now? I only put one coat of finish on that wood yesterday.
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You'll have to sand it. And/or use a bonding primer. If you sand it all the way off a regular primer might work ok.
If you want it to really bond well and not chip off, use a good bonding primer.
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Most likly Minwax Poly Shades. Should have been taken off the market years ago.
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Damn so I gotta kiltz it? If I use kiltz do I still gotta sand it? It's a ***** cause it has fancy trim with grooves everywhere. It was supposed to look fancy. I should have gotten regular stain like I usually do...
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Damn so I gotta kiltz it? If I use kiltz do I still gotta sand it? It's a ***** cause it has fancy trim with grooves everywhere. It was supposed to look fancy. I should have gotten regular stain like I usually do...
Kilz is not a bonding primer. use Zinsser cover stain. Even a light sanding will help the primer bond better.
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Kiltz would be like poring milk on it.
You need a real bonding primer.
Or just start over.
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no such thing as kiltz anyway
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Hit it with some 1-2-3, let it dry good, and paint it.

If you're using Polyshades, it probably does look messed up. That's a product that you have to apply in multiple coats to get the color/look you want. If it was pine, a preconditioner may have helped make it look less splotchy. In any event, prime and paint.
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Yea I used miniwax pre stain wood treatment and polyshades stain and finish. That polyshades is garbage!!! If I sand it back down to the wood and use a regular stain would it work or do you think I should paint it?
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How big of a shelf are we talking about here? I am thinking a couple cans of spray paint if it is small enough.
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It's 46" long 12 1/2" deep. I took a scrap piece of permalam and put moulding around the edge, plywood on top, and fancy brackets under it. I want to paint it as a last resort. I intended to make it look like mahogany...
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