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Old 03-12-2010, 08:05 PM   #16
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Has anyone ever sprayed BIN? I imagine it would be fantastic in that it would go on really fast. But I can't imagine the mess and how nasty it would be to do.
You would be imagining it correctly

We get a lot of...well I'm not how to describe them unless you are familiar with them
A lot of old cottage, porch, barn "conversions" where it was just a summer cottage or barn, and is now to be used as living space
Well, often the ceiling, and often the walls too, are just old wood planks
Sometimes from the '30s, sometimes from the 1800s or older, so we're not talking smoothly planed stuff here
And they are very old and dark and light stained (time, moisture, salt) and black from long term water leaks that weren't in an actual bedroom (and the inevitable NorthEasters out here can push moisture into any crevice), so were "lived" with for decades on end

The stuff is so rough hewn, taking a brush and roller to them is almost madness
So yeah, we buck up, suit up...and spray the BIN

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Old 03-13-2010, 05:56 AM   #17
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[quote=slickshift;413806]You would be imagining it correctly

We get a lot of...well I'm not how to describe them unless you are familiar with them
A lot of old cottage, porch, barn "conversions" where it was just a summer cottage or barn, and is now to be used as living space
Well, often the ceiling, and often the walls too, are just old wood planks
Sometimes from the '30s, sometimes from the 1800s or older, so we're not talking smoothly planed stuff here
And they are very old and dark and light stained (time, moisture, salt) and black from long term water leaks that weren't in an actual bedroom (and the inevitable NorthEasters out here can push moisture into any crevice), so were "lived" with for decades on end

The stuff is so rough hewn, taking a brush and roller to them is almost madness
So yeah, we buck up, suit up...and spray the BIN[/quote]

What fun!
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Old 03-13-2010, 09:50 AM   #18
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wow i bet thats messy as all get out.

walked around the house, found 8 five gallon buckets and another five one gallon cans of bin.

yikes.
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Thats still a lot of Bin
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... found 8 five gallon buckets and another five one gallon cans of bin.

yikes.
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Thats still a lot of Bin
Yikes yeah!
That is a lot of BIN!!!
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:20 PM   #21
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I found a simple permanent answer for smoking odor control one simple application removes odor from carpets, curtains and furniture. While researching in China I came across a product that you mix with paint that eliminates odors by releasing negative ions in the air, works by convection currents, warm air rises cool air falls creating a natural flow of air across the painted walls. I have had this in my home for over a year, works like a charm. No odor, no electrify and no problems.

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BTW- I am working on a home with a heavy smoker- lots of nic residue on everything. Washed walls and ww with krud Kutter( just a fairly quick one, not going for really clean) and primed once with Smart Prime.
Stopped the stain in it's tracks! Let dry over night as a precaution- finished WW in 1 coat Aura White dove. From NICOTINE brown
I was impressed.
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BTW- I am working on a home with a heavy smoker- lots of nic residue on everything. Washed walls and ww with krud Kutter( just a fairly quick one, not going for really clean) and primed once with Smart Prime.
Stopped the stain in it's tracks! Let dry over night as a precaution- finished WW in 1 coat Aura White dove. From NICOTINE brown
I was impressed.
I am going to try it next time I need a primer.
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I sprayed BIN on the unfinished wood joist and subfloor ceiling of a 85 year old basement. Took about 6 gallons and worked well but the fumes were deadly. I had to stop and get every box fan I had going in the exterior doorway. It was a bit scary till I got the air moving through there. The result is great though. Nice bright basement ceiling.
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I agree with chrisn - BIn is the best. It's alcohol based it will cut through and adhere to most problem areas. The shellac forms a barrier that will not let anything through. It dries in 30 mins and redcoat time is one hour. I worked. for a restoration company for a few years and we bought this stuff in bulk.
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We bought a short sale and found out that only one room was smoked in by the mother in law. I knew from the smell and the carpet. I've never been in a home where someone smoked not have I had to clean/paint after one. My Mom cleaned the walls with TSP and left to dry. She's the painter in the family so I took her advise. This being my 9 year old sons room, he wanted a SF Giants theme so we painted the walls and closet. Never got to the ceiling. After 2 weeks, I just noticed the smell of stale smoke in the room. Thought it was the wooden closet doors and took them out to paint, too but I researched smoking and painting and realized we should have done more to "seal" in the smoke. My Mom (who laughed at my lack of painting skills) seems miffed when I told her we should have used a primer or shellac. My question is...can I purchase BIN or another primer and paint right over the newly painted room? The walls are clean but do I need to wash them again? My Mom seems to think it "power of suggestion" but it's not...I can smell the stale smoke. Can I use a transparent shellac to seal in the already painted walls? Does BIN do that?

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We bought a short sale and found out that only one room was smoked in by the mother in law. I knew from the smell and the carpet. I've never been in a home where someone smoked not have I had to clean/paint after one. My Mom cleaned the walls with TSP and left to dry. She's the painter in the family so I took her advise. This being my 9 year old sons room, he wanted a SF Giants theme so we painted the walls and closet. Never got to the ceiling. After 2 weeks, I just noticed the smell of stale smoke in the room. Thought it was the wooden closet doors and took them out to paint, too but I researched smoking and painting and realized we should have done more to "seal" in the smoke. My Mom (who laughed at my lack of painting skills) seems miffed when I told her we should have used a primer or shellac. My question is...can I purchase BIN or another primer and paint right over the newly painted room? The walls are clean but do I need to wash them again? My Mom seems to think it "power of suggestion" but it's not...I can smell the stale smoke. Can I use a transparent shellac to seal in the already painted walls? Does BIN do that?
Before I would do anything to what you already painted, prime and paint the ceiling Use Bin for the primer
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Before I would do anything to what you already painted, prime and paint the ceiling Use Bin for the primer
I will do that. How much ventilation is needed? Could I open the windows and use the ceiling fan?

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