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Old 08-24-2009, 11:23 PM   #16
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You can scrape or sand with-out notifying authorities and get away with it. However if anyone calls OSHA, then it could be a large fine. I know this first hand to the tune of 5000 for a residential home. All my employees had to be blood tested and I had to attend hearings. I have learned a lot since that happened and will not touch a home built before 1978. OSHA explained to me that any home built prior to 1978 could have lead and if it does, then the criteria that you have to follow includes showering before taking breaks, hasmet tent, special respirators, etc,etc,etc and so on. All from a phone call from an unknown individual. Funny thing is that was the first older home I have painted in about 15 years. My company exclusively paints new homes. This was a favor for a friend. Bad Luck for me.

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Old 08-25-2009, 03:54 AM   #17
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You can scrape or sand with-out notifying authorities and get away with it. However if anyone calls OSHA, then it could be a large fine. I know this first hand to the tune of 5000 for a residential home. All my employees had to be blood tested and I had to attend hearings. I have learned a lot since that happened and will not touch a home built before 1978. OSHA explained to me that any home built prior to 1978 could have lead and if it does, then the criteria that you have to follow includes showering before taking breaks, hasmet tent, special respirators, etc,etc,etc and so on. All from a phone call from an unknown individual. Funny thing is that was the first older home I have painted in about 15 years. My company exclusively paints new homes. This was a favor for a friend. Bad Luck for me.

Well I guess THAT explains it,you are a contractor. I do not believe a home owner would have any of these problems.
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You are wrong.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:02 AM   #19
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As a contractor you are required to follow both state and federal guidelines as related to renovating and lead paint. You should have been aware of this as it is your business to know the regulations that affect your company. You will be required to have the EPA lead certificate if you work on homes built before 1978 after April 22, 2010. This includes; painters, plasterers, drywallers, renovators, plumbers, electricians, etc. There will also be a good deal of paperwork to go along with the work. If you get caught not complying there are some pretty steep fines, possible jail time, and on the state level suspension of your license. As is always the case ignorance is not a valid excuse or defense.

There are no federal laws regarding homeowners (excludes rental properties, investment properties i.e. flips, apartments, condos, commercial buildings, day care facilities, schools, and government buildings) and working with lead paint. States may have stricter regulations then the feds so check with your state regional EPA office for more information.

That said if you choose to scrape, sand, or otherwise disturb lead paint you put the well being of your family, yourself, and others at risk. Choosing to voluntarily endanger yourself and others to save money is not worth the risk in my opinion. If you purchase a home with the potential for lead or asbestos materials to be present you should not attempt to renovate them until you are financially prepared to do so safely and correctly.
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I've painted almost all of the trim in one room, after scraping a few spots, priming them, and scuff sanding with a wet sanding block and wiping with water. And yes, I was wearing a mask and gloves. I used a SW extra white and it looks beautiful. No more of that Valspar crap for me.
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a dust mask couldnt hurt either.
Just to clarify, you don't want just any dust mask. You want an N95 dust mask. If you have an old home, it's an essential for ripping into things.

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Which is why it's ok for homeowners to do it themselves. The O there stands for Occupational. Since they were your employees, and you pay them to do this, you are regulated by OSHA in everything they do. A homeowner would be responsible IF they hired someone to do it for them; not if they were to do it themselves.
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Just to clarify, you don't want just any dust mask. You want an N95 dust mask. If you have an old home, it's an essential for ripping into things.



Which is why it's ok for homeowners to do it themselves. The O there stands for Occupational. Since they were your employees, and you pay them to do this, you are regulated by OSHA in everything they do. A homeowner would be responsible IF they hired someone to do it for them; not if they were to do it themselves.
Which was my whole point above,just not explained as well.
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Owners are allowed to perform lead abatement in MA
You can't have your EMPLOYEES perform the abatement
That's a BIG difference
It's also different when you are working on a property that will be rented out

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(C) Only authorized persons shall perform abatement or containment activities. The following
authorized persons may perform the following categories of abatement and containment
activities:

(2) Effective February 4, 2000, licensed lead-safe renovators and owners and owners’
agents authorized to perform moderate-risk abatement may perform all moderate- and lowrisk
abatement and/or containment activities, subject to the requirement of 105 CMR
460.110(C)(4), in accordance with the requirements of 105 CMR 460.000 and 454 CMR
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Please note that my post (#19) is based on the federal guidelines. As I said the states may have more stringent guidelines, they may not have less stringent guidelines then the federal guidelines. Also note that their are strict guidelines as to how to dispose of it when you are done. For those of you who want more information both professional and diy visit www.epa.gov/lead or call 1-800-424-LEAD (5323).

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