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Old 01-29-2006, 01:38 PM   #1
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We have cabinets that seem to have wax on the wood. It builds up around the doorknobs and makes the cabinets look bad. I tried some chemical strippers and none of them do anything. Now I am thinking of painting over it.

Do I need to sand the cabinets first? They are darkwood stained.
Do I have to get rid of all the wax first? Seems blended into the surface except is not noticeable except around the doorknobs.

Do I need primer first? etc.

Any help is appreciated.

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Old 01-29-2006, 10:12 PM   #2
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Clean the cabinets with TSP or equivalent, then sand. Use a good quality primer like Zinsser and %100 acrylic paint.

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My Ideal Cabinet Repaint:

Clean with ammonia/water solution
Let dry

Sand with 180
This is to rough up the surface, not sand it off
Wipe with Tack Cloth

Prime with shellac based primer*
Let dry

Sand with 180
This is a light sanding to smooth out the shellac a bit
Wipe with tack cloth

Paint first coat, with a proper brush, quality oil-based**, high gloss paint
Let dry over night

Sand with 220
Wipe with tack cloth

Second coat quality oil based** high gloss paint, also with a brush

Enjoy beautiful cabinets

* I recommend Zinsser's BIN, and as with any shellac, have a source of fresh air and wear a respirator rated for fumes

** A high quality water-born enamel can be substituted, in fact it's recommended for people not familiar with working with oil paints, or worried about more fumes or clean up solvents used for oils
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Wow your bigtime slickshift for recomending shellac. To the original poster. Have you got a garage you could paint in or are you in a warm weather climate where you could paint outdoors. I would recomend taking all the doors off not a big deal get cordless drill taking drawers out and doing like slickshift says. Also take it one step futher by updating the hardward. Make sure you put something over your nose and mouth before messing with the shellac.

ps. Slick still waiting for you to tell me how to proceed on the fireplace.LOL
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lol
I like the shellac because it works...always
It stops tenacious bleed through and sticks to almost anything like bubblegum in a kid's hair
It's there...period

You can use an oil-based primer
...and on some projects I do
It's just that with some unknowns (w/o seeing it) I know the shellac will work, so I'm confident in my recommendation of it

On my cabinets I would use shellac for the durability
I want to be able to wack them with the butt end of my putty knife and not have the paint chip
...it won't



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...the fireplace?
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My Ideal Cabinet Repaint:

Clean with ammonia/water solution
Let dry

Sand with 180
This is to rough up the surface, not sand it off
Wipe with Tack Cloth

Prime with shellac based primer*
Let dry

Sand with 180
This is a light sanding to smooth out the shellac a bit
Wipe with tack cloth

Paint first coat, with a proper brush, quality oil-based**, high gloss paint
Let dry over night

Sand with 220
Wipe with tack cloth

Second coat quality oil based** high gloss paint, also with a brush

Enjoy beautiful cabinets

* I recommend Zinsser's BIN, and as with any shellac, have a source of fresh air and wear a respirator rated for fumes

** A high quality water-born enamel can be substituted, in fact it's recommended for people not familiar with working with oil paints, or worried about more fumes or clean up solvents used for oils

what white paint would you recommend for the cabinets? I like the results in this photo.

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what white paint would you recommend for the cabinets? I like the results in this photo.
Those seem pretty shiny
I'd suggest Ben Moore's Impervo, either waterborne or oil, whichever you are comfortable with, in the highest gloss available

Off-hand from the pics it looks like it might not quite be as glossy as those
But for a super glossy finish the step up to Fine Paints Of Europe's Dutchlac is not a step I'd undertake lightly
It's very difficult to work with

The Impervo is great to work with
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number the cabinet doors when you take them off. Makes it easier to reinstall.
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I agree they are quite glossy. I don't think I want them that glossy. Do you still recommend the hightst gloss Impervo?
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I agree they are quite glossy. I don't think I want them that glossy. Do you still recommend the hightst gloss Impervo?
The Satin Impervo ("satin" is BM's "semi-gloss") is the best choice for cabinets IMO

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