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Old 08-12-2014, 03:03 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I am looking to repaint white hallways of an 11 story office building. This is a B-Class office building that has a lot of users and wears quickly.

In the past, we would repaint every 4-5 years with one coat of cheap oil based semi-gloss white paint that the local hardware store would provide.

However, we have been doing a lot repairs to the building this summer, including several drywall patches/skim coating in the hallway. That is, one coat is not enough to hide the patches. Further, with the other new repairs (just redid bathrooms, painted ceilings...) we are willing to spend a little more to paint the hallways right.

Roughly, 120 gallons of paint needed in the past for one coat of all hallways.

Anyway, I called a few places and got a few different suggestions.

1. Two coats of Benjamin Moore Regal Select Semigloss White.

2. Two coats of cheap oil-based paint.

3. Our local contractor is recommending one coat primer one coat of a premium paint.

So two basic questions.

1. What paint do you recommend for this type of project? (Willing to spend more, but nothing crazy)

2. How do you recommend we apply (primer? one or two coats?)

Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-12-2014, 03:47 PM   #2
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Where in the world are you that's still using oil based paint?
The VOC's, the added time for clean up, the smell.
Tried an enamel paint yet?

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We are in NYC. We kept using oil based paint as our elderly Super preferred it. We have not tried an enamel paint yet.
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I like plan #3. Oil based has been outlawed in many places, and with good reason. The smell, the cost, the clean-up would be a nightmare with 120 gallons Maybe look into something like this,

http://www.sherwin-williams.com/home...erbased-epoxy/

JMay and Gyn Shu will be along listen to them almost anything will be better than oil. I assume this will be sprayed guess I should have asked.
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Prime with a bonding primer and 2 coats of paint.
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You must be using an industrial alkyd, as traditional alkyds have been banned by EPA for quite some time in your area (2008?), due to excessive VOC. Oil base semi-gloss would definitely magnify imperfections (patches, repair). The alkyd would be durable, but the smell in an occupied building would be strong.
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Of course your elderly Super preferred it - that's the only thing he was aware of the last time he researched paint, 50 years ago.

The modern eggshell or semi-gloss acrylics should be fine, or a waterborne alkyd.
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+1 on NOT using any oil-based paint. It's just a royal pain and in this day and age with so many latex based alternatives, well, it's a no-brainer.

Red Dog's approach is solid. Prime with a quality bonding primer like Zinsser's 123. Then you can topcoat with the paint of your choosing. Regal Select is a solid choice. Just remember that the Semi-gloss is going to show every imperfection in the walls including areas that may not have been repaired properly. What a project!
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+1 on NOT using any oil-based paint. It's just a royal pain and in this day and age with so many latex based alternatives, well, it's a no-brainer.

Red Dog's approach is solid. Prime with a quality bonding primer like Zinsser's 123. Then you can topcoat with the paint of your choosing. Regal Select is a solid choice. Just remember that the Semi-gloss is going to show every imperfection in the walls including areas that may not have been repaired properly. What a project!
Thank you all for the responses.

Two questions. Do you not recommend a semi-gloss for the hallway walls? It is my understanding it is easier to clean.

Also, what topcoat do you recommend or are they all similar?
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Regal Select is fine. I'm more of a Sherwin-Williams guy so I use more SuperPaint and Cashmere for walls than anything else. The good paints at SW and BM are comparable and you can't go wrong with either as long as you don't buy their low-end paints. Semi-gloss is easier to clean so if that's the feature you want (clean ability) then that's what I would recommend.
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Easier to clean than what? Full gloss will be easier to clean than semi-gloss.

Picking your sheen involves tradeoffs. More gloss, easier to clean, harder to apply so it looks good, harder to cover wall flaws, and some people think harder to look at with all that glare. Less gloss, just the opposite of course. Pick your priorities. If these are "nice" office hallways, eggshell or satin might be more appropriate. If it's more "industrial", then semi-gloss might be.
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Easier to clean than what? Full gloss will be easier to clean than semi-gloss.

Picking your sheen involves tradeoffs. More gloss, easier to clean, harder to apply so it looks good, harder to cover wall flaws, and some people think harder to look at with all that glare. Less gloss, just the opposite of course. Pick your priorities. If these are "nice" office hallways, eggshell or satin might be more appropriate. If it's more "industrial", then semi-gloss might be.
They are in the middle. This isn't a luxury building but not a warehouse. Most tenants are artists and 1-4 person small offices.
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I would go satin or eggshell.
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The reason I said it this way is I'm wasn't sure what I recommend was correct and figured they had more experience with it than I did. Now after further info I think I would change to the super paint.

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