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Old 01-17-2013, 04:59 AM   #16
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Zinsser claims that Gardz has a high alkalinity resistance and can be applied to fresh plaster within days. What is your opinion of that Ric, and does that mean it would be a barrier for a latex or oil topcoat? By the way, good to see you.

Personally, I would not do it, no matter what they said

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Old 01-18-2013, 05:01 PM   #17
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Zinsser claims that Gardz has a high alkalinity resistance and can be applied to fresh plaster within days. What is your opinion of that Ric, and does that mean it would be a barrier for a latex or oil topcoat? By the way, good to see you.
Hiya Joe...

Thanks for the welcome back - unfortunately, I'm gonna be in and out pretty sporadically over the next couple-o-weeks...(sigh - I'm counting the days until retirement. As of today, there are only 36,000 days to go).

Anyway, Zinsser claims you can apply Gardz over new plaster with only 24 hours dry time. My common sense side says to wait a tad bit longer, but Zinsser and Rustoleum make some bold statements regarding their products and they seem to know what they're doing, so...and, if that's true, it would work as a barrier coat for an alkyd topcoat to - theoretically - provide the necessary protection to stave off saponification)...
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Hiya Joe...

Thanks for the welcome back - unfortunately, I'm gonna be in and out pretty sporadically over the next couple-o-weeks...(sigh - I'm counting the days until retirement. As of today, there are only 36,000 days to go).

Anyway, Zinsser claims you can apply Gardz over new plaster with only 24 hours dry time. My common sense side says to wait a tad bit longer, but Zinsser and Rustoleum make some bold statements regarding their products and they seem to know what they're doing, so...and, if that's true, it would work as a barrier coat for an alkyd topcoat to - theoretically - provide the necessary protection to stave off saponification)...

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The heavy lime concentrate plaster needs an oil based primer from what I have always been told AND needs to dry for 30 days before you paint it.
what needs to dry 30 days, the plaster or the primer?
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As far as I know- I would trust ric's info- he is the closest thing to an informed chemist we have here..
He isn't one, but knows several I think- and works with them often.
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what needs to dry 30 days, the plaster or the primer?
The plaster needs to dry 30 days before you prime it. Sorry for the confusion.
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Thanks Ric. We're already down to 35,999, see how fast it will go.

Not that there never was, but I've never heard of anyway around the 30 wait to paint fresh plaster. Given the boldness of a statement like, I would venture that Zinsser is pretty sure about their claim. The made no qualification, so I assume they would have to stand behind it if it failed. I would probably still wait, but it's nice to have an option if necessary. Sometimes people groan when they realize the project won't be finished for a month.
I know a plaster guy, he's nearing retirement and he learned the trade from his dad, and I asked when's the last time he did a new full house plaster job. He said 1969. I did work in the mid 90's on a massive million dollar expansion of an old country house where the majority of the new walls were done in plaster (not done by my friend). But my friend basically makes his living doing repair to old work. True plasterers are a rare breed anymore.
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[QUOTE=jsheridan;1096944]Thanks Ric. We're already down to 35,999, see how fast it will go.

Not that there never was, but I've never heard of anyway around the 30 wait to paint fresh plaster. Given the boldness of a statement like, I would venture that Zinsser is pretty sure about their claim. The made no qualification, so I assume they would have to stand behind it if it failed. I would probably still wait, but it's nice to have an option if necessary. Sometimes people groan when they realize the project won't be finished for a month.
I know a plaster guy, he's nearing retirement and he learned the trade from his dad, and I asked when's the last time he did a new full house plaster job. He said 1969. I did work in the mid 90's on a massive million dollar expansion of an old country house where the majority of the new walls were done in plaster (not done by my friend). But my friend basically makes his living doing repair to old work. True plasterers are a rare breed anymore.[/QUOTE]


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yall think it's OK to at least mud and sand the imperfections before 30 days (not that I have many imperfections, my job turned out pretty smooth)? or should i wait even for that 30 days?

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