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MsKitty32 02-07-2013 08:38 PM

Painting mortar on brick fireplace
 
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We have a 1940s heatilator brick fireplace that I DO NOT want to paint (is it ugly?? :eek:). I like the original red brick however, previous owners did a sloppy job of painting the bookcases on either end of the fireplace and did get some paint on some of the bricks which I have been removing with Strypeeze (the can did say it was for masonry). However, the mortar was purposely painted an antique white color. I am ok with the mortar being painted as I feel it does make the fireplace pop and I simply cannot get the paint off the mortar. It appears to be a latex paint. So, I was thinking about painting the mortar again to brighten the color and was wondering if a) this was even a good idea; b) what type of paint or dye to use to do this?
Also, since this is an old heatilator fireplace (we are not currently using but may in the future) we have four covers to the heatilator openings... just painted metal covers...two are in BAD shape. I would love to replace all with wooden covers (if advisable) that I could stain to match the mantel but am not having much luck finding them. Wondering if I will have to make them myself?
The bricks below the cover still have the paint on them - I think you can see the difference in the pic. This cover is one of the better ones - there is no chance of salvaging the two bad covers as they are in horrible condition.

joecaption 02-07-2013 08:53 PM

There going to have to be metal for safety reasons.
May be able to find some brass ones.

Brushjockey 02-07-2013 09:25 PM

I see a little what I think might be paint on the red brick- not much difference in just the mortar.
Question- if you were to paint just the mortar, how would you do it?

MsKitty32 02-07-2013 09:32 PM

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The first pic I took quick with my cell. Here is a pic with my camera. I think this shows the paint on the brick more vs what I have cleaned already.

I was planning on painting the mortar with a REALLY small brush...tedious.

Brushjockey 02-07-2013 09:34 PM

Tedious=understatement.

Don't think it would be worth the effort- and still would do nothing about paint on the red brick, except probably put more on.

MsKitty32 02-07-2013 09:43 PM

Well maybe the paint on the mortar could just use a good cleaning besides what I have already done??? Not sure what concoction of ingredients or product would help if any to clean it up some more.

Canarywood1 02-08-2013 11:04 AM

That cover in your pic,is the upper cover that brings heat into the room,and doesn't look to be in that bad a shape that it can't be stripped and repainted,what do the air intake covers look like,the lower ones?

MsKitty32 02-08-2013 02:19 PM

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Haha I didn't want to put a pic of the intake covers because as you will see they are bad news! It's embarrassing but we didn't damage them...previous owner...I even found toys inside the holes! This is the better of the two. Dented and missing louvers...bleh! Unless there is a way to fashion new louvers and soder(?) them onto the frame???

Is it true that wood covers would not be safe? I guess I was thinking that they shouldn't be that hot. Also, I am thinking that we will put an insert in if we use this fireplace again so the heatilator won't be functioning and the covers would be more of a fashion statement then...so to speak..ha!

Canarywood1 02-08-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MsKitty32 (Post 1112486)
Haha I didn't want to put a pic of the intake covers because as you will see they are bad news! It's embarrassing but we didn't damage them...previous owner...I even found toys inside the holes! This is the better of the two. Dented and missing louvers...bleh! Unless there is a way to fashion new louvers and soder(?) them onto the frame???

Is it true that wood covers would not be safe? I guess I was thinking that they shouldn't be that hot. Also, I am thinking that we will put an insert in if we use this fireplace again so the heatilator won't be functioning and the covers would be more of a fashion statement then...so to speak..ha!




Yes those are pretty much toast,and are impossible to find,the only thing i could suggest is to find a sheet metal shop and ask if they might be able to fabricate something for you,if the other mate to the pic you posted is in as good a condition i'd hang on to it and have them both stripped and refinished

I agree with the previous poster about wood covers as they do get pretty hot,i had that same system in 1970 and used it extensively,you say you may put an insert in it,but the Heatilator is an insert so don't think it would be a good idea.

MsKitty32 02-08-2013 03:08 PM

Thanks for the help.

I had been looking around online and found this site: http://www.signaturehardware.com/type125

I realize these registers are not really for the heatilator fireplace covers but was wondering if they would work? I think the screw holes would be an issue but I did find a website where you could get them w/o the screw holes...wondering if somehow...depending on the material...you could make holes in the register where you needed them?

Here is another site that they even encourage you to call and ask.
http://www.ventcovers.biz/
These cost some major dough and I need four!!!!

Canarywood1 02-08-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MsKitty32 (Post 1112513)
Thanks for the help.

I had been looking around online and found this site: http://www.signaturehardware.com/type125

I realize these registers are not really for the heatilator fireplace covers but was wondering if they would work? I think the screw holes would be an issue but I did find a website where you could get them w/o the screw holes...wondering if somehow...depending on the material...you could make holes in the register where you needed them?

Here is another site that they even encourage you to call and ask.
http://www.ventcovers.biz/
These cost some major dough and I need four!!!!



You can make just about anything work,if you can find them the proper size,and without screw holes,it's just a matter of using the original ones as a template to locate the screw holes for the new ones.

MsKitty32 02-08-2013 07:26 PM

Any suggestions on painting or staining or something to the mortar? Can't unpaint it w/o TONS of scrubbing. After I get done taking the paint splotches off the brick I am going to use a soot cleaner...as some of the mortar does have soot on it. I noticed the strypeeze is getting the soot off the brick.

Brushjockey 02-08-2013 09:06 PM

MKitty- With a bit of skill, one could mix a paint to match the brick and carefully blend away the blotches on the brick.
Brick is very porous, so it is hard to get stains or paint out of it.
Not really a DIY thing- but it can be done. The only other way i know of is to literally scratch it out.
As far as the grout- I still don't see why you need to paint it. that would make more probs than it solves.

MsKitty32 02-08-2013 09:24 PM

Actually, the paint splotches are coming off the brick pretty well with the Strypeeze. I consider myself lucky that they didn't plaster the paint on them.

I figure painting the mortar would be insanely tedious..just thought a fresh paint job would brighten the previous painted mortar up a bit. Wasn't sure if I should use a certain paint IF I tackled it.


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