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Old 03-08-2012, 11:29 AM   #1
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This is my current project.
Apparently the previous owner had painted it black, and the black paint was bubbling/peeling. I had some chemical stripper in the garage so I used it to remove most of the black paint. Underneath it looks like a copper plated metal. Unfortunately the copper plating is in bad condition so I'd like to repaint it black.

Any suggestions on primers, paints, or procedures would be appreciated.
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I recommend an alkyd (Oil-base) brush-on primer, it should be a red oxide color. Spray-on primers generally dry too fast and end up too thin to give good performance. If you go back to black, consider using a high-heat product. These are sold as BBQ black. They have a better tolerance of heat on a metal surface. A spray can of this should work fine. Use Two or three coats allowing recommended dry time.
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I recommend an alkyd (Oil-base) brush-on primer, it should be a red oxide color. Spray-on primers generally dry too fast and end up too thin to give good performance. If you go back to black, consider using a high-heat product. These are sold as BBQ black. They have a better tolerance of heat on a metal surface. A spray can of this should work fine. Use Two or three coats allowing recommended dry time.
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Agree to a point but if you do not like black, look for high heat products like engine enamels at your auto parts store, or online. Not sure I understand the red oxide primer but you definitely need a good metal primer so why not. I agree to use a brush on primer and you can get rust inhibiting or even rust converting one (ask a Navy maintenance person for current hot brands).

You probably need to prep the surface of what you have better than you have. I am lazy so would probably take it to a metal person or anybody with a sandblaster and fine grit. In the old days before I was lazy, I would have take fine wet sandpaper to it before priming and painting. It looks like it could be nice. Do not skimp on the prep.

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You probably need to prep the surface of what you have better than you have. I am lazy so would probably take it to a metal person or anybody with a sandblaster and fine grit. In the old days before I was lazy, I would have take fine wet sandpaper to it before priming and painting. It looks like it could be nice. Do not skimp on the prep.
Thanks. I know there is more prep work to be done. I should have specified this was just round one - started on one of those rare, nice afternoons off where you look for something that calls to be done outside.
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[quote=Blondesense;874542]Thanks. I know there is more prep work to be done. I should have specified this was just round one - started on one of those rare, nice afternoons off where you look for something that calls to be done outside.[/quote]



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Too true!

Also a plus if the job entails a lot of sit-down-and-wait-with-your-favorite-beverage time.

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I just did one of these last fall. I washed it, wirebrushed/sanded the flaking paint, then dusted it off. The one I did, looks identical, dismantles to three or four pieces. I did it in tricolor. Silver and black, and the eagle appropriately in gold. I used Rustoleum spray products, no primer. I don't see the need for primer, and think it's a bit overkill. And I wouldn't want brush marks on it. Red oxide is a ferrous metal primer, copper plate is not ferrous. But, it never hurts to prime and RO carries a variety of them is spray if you choose. I slip a plastic bag over my arm as a spray sleeve, or you could use a long rubber glove, to hold the pieces when you spray. READ the label and adhere religiously to spray/recoat times. Spray paint will fail if you rush and recoat too late or too soon, and you'll have a wrinkled finish. When you read the label you'll understand. I'll try to post a pic sometime today.
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I'm a little slow, but it's finally done.
Thanks for the help.

The sad thing is I was wrong. It wasn't copper plated, it was solid copper.
I would have loved to clean it up and let it patina naturally, but I may as well have hung a sign that said "steal me".
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I would have loved to clean it up and let it patina naturally, but I may as well have hung a sign that said "steal me".
They are just finishing a weird but nice massive restoration on an old Catholic church near me. It is one of those deals where they sort of wrapped a new highrise around it. Looks goofy to me but I am sure it was historically landmarked or something.

Anyhow, the massive, ornate roof and all the gutters and dounspouts are copper. I half expect to walk past it and see that some have removed the whole roof overnight! I am sure they will get at the downspouts if not the gutters.

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