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Old 06-14-2007, 02:38 PM   #1
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Painting kitchen ceiling making me crazy!


After my orange-peel kitchen ceiling was replastered and sanded smooth, I did the following steps and it looks awful! I primed it (all products are Benjamin Moore), then did one coat in a Pearl finish. It was very splotchy and too shiny (showed every imperfection), so decided to change to Egg shell. I put on TWO more coats of the Egg shell and it is still very splotchy and it is very obvious when one row finished and another started. I've tried ending each stroke in one direction...I've tried foregoing with the extension pole and getting right up close to see better. So far all I have is a sore back and neck. Do I need to re-prime and start over???? Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 06-14-2007, 03:44 PM   #2
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Hello Kay
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Ceilings are the toughest, and most of the time they are flat
Shinier sheens are even tougher!

Shinier sheen will show imperfections more
I can't tell from here if your surface is up to snuff for a sheen
I'll have to assume it is

The ceiling should be well primed and coated by now
I don't think that's an issue

If you are using the good Ben Moore products, then that shouldn't be an issue either (BM, like all the other companies, make cheap "commercial/contractor" grade products also)

The other two most common problems with ceilings are using inferior quality rollers and the person's technique

Make sure you are using a good quality roller sleeve-no econo paks here
At least Purdy White Doves, some 50/50 wool/poly ones even better

Then work on technique
A common problem is people like to squeeze every last drop on paint out of the roller
You want to apply the paint, lay it down, not squeeze it out
You will have to work fast enough as to not let the edge dry out, before you come back to it
Doing small sections at a time is fine, but you can't let a section dry out before doing the section next to it

If any roller lines appear, you'll need to go over them right away

As you are using a sheen, you should mix your paint often, and always end with the strokes in the same direction

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Thanks for the reply Slickshift. I'm using the top-of-line BenMoore products ($35 a gallon!!) and do the techniques that you mentioned. When I see roller lines I do quickly go over them but then I have new roller lines...can never get ahead of that game. So I guess the one thing I need to try (before giving up and doing a flat kitchen ceiling) is a better roller sleeve. Mine wasn't an economy but wasn't the top knotch kind either. Thanks again.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:37 PM   #4
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I say ceiling cannot be fixed unless it is mud really good... if the mud job is bad... whatever paint you use, it is going to show under sunlight...

that is why builder need to charge a whole lot more if anyone want their ceiling not pop-corned...
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Good technique and products should work with an OK roller
It might be worth it to try another coat with a better one before the next step

Like I said, I can't see it from here, but if KUI****G is correct about the surface, there's not much to be done except have that re-done
Well...skimmed over with a layer or two of joint compound

There are different "specs" for surfaces that will have a sheen
They must be much smoother before any paint is applied
Sheens show more imperfections than flats
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what nap roller sleeve are you using? use at least 1/2", overlap each stroke by half and roll into the previous stroke. Finally, roll with the light.

Keep in mind: The roller end where the arm goes in will lay on more paint. Use the open end to go over what you already rolled.

By twisting on the extension pole lightly, you can adjust how much paint will come off either end of the roller. As you do your last stroke in one direction, slighlty twist the extension pole so the end of the roller, on the wet side, has less pressure.

Finally, just use flat paint.

Hope this helps.

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