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Old 12-13-2013, 02:03 PM   #1
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My wife coaches color guard (flag team) and I was volunteered to make and paint a tarp made from used billboards. This will measure 70'x50'. They are vinyl and I am unsure what kind of primer and paint to use. I have read that some people use exterior paint nad have good results but don't want to waste money and have it fail. It will only be used less than 10 times total. They don't really have much money because they get no support from the school since the budget cuts last year. Anyone have a reasonable cost solution??

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Old 12-13-2013, 03:12 PM   #2
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Prime with 1-2-3 to get a good bond to the vinyl and you could probably get some mistinted exterior paint at your local paintstore to do the painting. The primer is anywhere from 18 - 22 dollars a gallon and you can buy mistinted gallons for less than $10 a gallon.
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so I use the zinser to prime and use exterior for the top coat?
Any particular brand of exterior paint to use? She already has a color in mind.

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Screenprinting inks formulated for vinyl will work. The best stuff is vinyl inks but it'll wipe out any lungs in a 5 mile radius.
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On a budget, you may not have too many choices on paint brand. You can hit up your local paintstore first for some mistints if they have any. If not, usually Lowe's or HD have plenty of mistints. Most of us on here are partial to Benjamin Moore or Sherwin Williams, but don't expect anything inexpensive unless it's a mistint or something on the lower end of their paint products.
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will the zinser be flexible enough? this 70'x50 tarp will be folded to approximately 3x5 feet. the tarps are vinyl.
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The Zinsser may not flex enough in this case. You may have to experiment a bit with some scrap vinyl. If the primer is NOT flexing enough for your needs, the topcoats may be sufficient. I was thinking the primer would give you a nice bond on the vinyl, but, if you are folding them, the primer may cause the topcoats to crack. Just going to have to experiment a bit to see what works.
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thats the problem, I don't have time to do that. it has to be done by sunday
If they could afford it I would use benjamin moore.

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You've taken on an impossible project. If they can't afford paint, they can't afford screening inks and it won't be available during the weekend. Nothing laying on the surface will work, it has to bind with the vinyl. Even if you managed to find something hot enough to stick reasonably well, it won't hold up to folding.
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No time to experiment? 1-2-3 dries in 5 minutes with a fan on it. You could put some paint on the backside of the tarps or even an old tarp you have laying around. If there's no budget for paint, you're screwed. Maybe ask your neighbors or friends if they have any leftover paint……..most people have several cans in the basement. Maybe some of the color guard families can chip in or maybe they have some paint you can use. I think I have exhausted any ideas I have…….best of luck.
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Our local Habitat for Humanity has tons of paint, much of it high quality, for cheap. Obviously you have to take what colors they have. Exterior latex paints can be quite flexible.
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If it was me I would probably try an elastomeric. In general, regular ext latex house paint will bond to vinyl. The challenge here is flexibility. Higher sheen paints (semi gloss, gloss) are going to give you more flexibility than a flat or low sheen paint.

Given your time and cost constraints, I would go with the best ext latex enamel that you can get.

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Yes, I meant to say the glossier paints are more flexible too. I recently repainted some vinyl shutters. They were previously painted with no bonding primer. The paint came off in rubbery sheets when I pulled on it - super flexible. It was not a great bond, but then again it never came off either in several years in the weather.
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thanks for every ones input.

We finally found out that the tarp is polyethylene so we are going to make it a practice tarp and my wife is gonna have to break down and find the money to buy one for the competitions. the parents are going to have to come up with some fundraisers. My job is much easier now.

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