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Old 05-31-2010, 09:06 AM   #1
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I am looking to refinish a large kitchen that is currently stained and showing it's age. The cabinets are a lighter oak, raised panel. From the research I've done, this is my plan - please comment!

- Fuji Mini-Mite 4 HVLP Gun (are others better/more affordable/etc?)
- light sanding to remove sheen, followed by tack cloth
- 1 coat oil based primer
- 2 coats oil based paint

We are planning to put new hardware on so I will disassmble everything into a "clean room" (as clean as I can get the basement area designated as the paint booth).

Comments on what the best paint and primer are for this project are appreciated.

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Comments on what the best paint and primer are for this project are appreciated.
About to start similar project. Based on my research so far, Fine Paints of Europe is best to use. Any other suggestions....?

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For one, I hate painted oak. It's open grain structure will show through the paint unless you use a grain filler before painting if you want a smooth finished surface. It is so open grained that it might take a few coats of filler with sanding in between to completely fill the grain. a little instructional info http://www.rockler.com/blog/index.cf...d-Grain-Filler
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Wouldn't the brushable putty accomplish the filling of the grain?
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Wouldn't the brushable putty accomplish the filling of the grain?
I've been involved with woodworking many years and have never heard of that product. Did a brief Google search and it seems to mainly be an automotive product. "Can be used on the following surfaces: Bare steel, Galvanized/zinc coated steels, aluminum and OEM surfaces."
No idea if it would work on wood. Sorry. If you have experience with it then you could try it. Not sure how easy it is to sand as it seems to be an epoxy product of some kind. Water based grain filler sands easily.
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I think that's called Bondo.

Only joking - had never thought of the open grain. Might have to use one door for some test runs and see what works/looks best.

Haven't seen many comments on the HVLP gun...is that the right route and comments on Fuji? They seem like a quality product but I'm a novice...a little gun painting but this would be a big step up.
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I think that's called Bondo.

Only joking - had never thought of the open grain. Might have to use one door for some test runs and see what works/looks best.

Haven't seen many comments on the HVLP gun...is that the right route and comments on Fuji? They seem like a quality product but I'm a novice...a little gun painting but this would be a big step up.
Thats a very nice turbine/HVLP gun combination. Generally a four stage turbine is only necessary to spray thicker solutions like latex paint. If your finishing material is thinner a 3 stage turbine might do just as well. If you already have a fairly large compressor you can get a HVLP gun that will not need a turbine. So lots cheaper unless of course you don't have the compressor already. I think Harbor Freight has an inexpensive compressor gun that seems to get pretty good reviews on the wood working forums. But HF does have a reputation of selling some real junk. I use a home built 3 stage turbine and it works fine for anything I need to spray until I get up to latex paint which I have to thin and it still tends to sputter a little. HVLP turbines are basically multi stage central vacuum cleaner motors in a box mostly made my Lamb. If you can afford the Fuji, go for it. Might check ebay for used units.
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For the finish I would go with Ben Moore undercoater and Satin Impervo,way cheaper than FPE and holds up well. The oil will yellow over time( if white).I would go with the Impervo Waterborne.
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Wouldn't the brushable putty accomplish the filling of the grain?
The brushing putty is specifically a FPE product. WAY expensive, though, so hesitant, because if it doesn't work......

According to their site:

Oil-based primer for use on interior or exterior* surfaces

Surfaces: Extremely high-build sanding primer

Applications: Doors, walls, windows, cabinet work and furniture

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Thats a very nice turbine/HVLP gun combination. Generally a four stage turbine is only necessary to spray thicker solutions like latex paint. If your finishing material is thinner a 3 stage turbine might do just as well. If you already have a fairly large compressor you can get a HVLP gun that will not need a turbine. So lots cheaper unless of course you don't have the compressor already. I think Harbor Freight has an inexpensive compressor gun that seems to get pretty good reviews on the wood working forums. But HF does have a reputation of selling some real junk. I use a home built 3 stage turbine and it works fine for anything I need to spray until I get up to latex paint which I have to thin and it still tends to sputter a little. HVLP turbines are basically multi stage central vacuum cleaner motors in a box mostly made my Lamb. If you can afford the Fuji, go for it. Might check ebay for used units.

For years I've been collecting quality tools one project at a time. I've even convinced the appropriations committee that this is justifiable given our DIY mentality. As a result I've still saved a ton of money and filled my garage with high end tools. For $70 more (amazon.com) I'd rather have the 4 stage and be able to spray latex on some project down the road.

Thanks all for the input...still leery of the open grain oak!
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Here's a good step by step on the whole painting cabinets concept. I keep trying to get to this one myself, but so far it hasn't happened. One thing I always hear is to take off the cabinets from the wall so you can get to all the odd places.

http://www.oldhouseweb.com/how-to-advice/painting-kitchen-cabinets.shtml

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