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Old 01-21-2014, 08:02 PM   #1
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I've been doing a ton of painting lately, bought a nice spray gun, painting every day, random things, etc etc so I figured I'd make an account on here to hopefully get some help from you more experienced users with the problems that I have and will probably occur.

Lately I've been painting a motorcycle helmet, the primary colors are silver and blue with yellow accents. The silver I need to use is a metallic silver. After I applied the silver coating (which went really well) I need to add painting tape around it to add the yellow accents. My problem is however that the masking tape I'm using is making impressions in the silver and tearing up small layers of it and making it look rough and just bad overall. The painters tape I'm using is 3M sensitive surface as well as 3M 1/8" precision vinyl. Both are pretty expensive stuff. I've been letting the paint dry in a well ventilated room for 12-16 hours. Can anybody give me some advice on what I'm doing wrong or how to avoid this? Does the paint need more time to cure properly? Any helpful input would be greatly appreciated!!

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I would think more time to cure, the warmer the better.

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^^^ That's what it sounds like to me.
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I'm trying it currently, it's going on about 18 hours since the last silver touch up coat. I never had a problem with the blue though. Just a couple hours and you could mask all you wanted. I guess the silver is just touchy stuff. I'll get back on how it goes
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Sounds like a base coat/clear coat system. The time is way more than enough, an hour would be over kill. You need an intercoat clear layer to protect the metallic and detailed graphics. The tape may not be the right thing for that, Fine Line and transfer tape is commonly used. Vinyl tape is generally meant to stay on the surface or be cleared over but I am not familiar with those 3M products. Make sure it doesn't leave a residue.
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I wonder if there is an automotive detail tape, which would work better for that application.
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The vinyl tape I'm using is just super thin, flexible making tape. You use it to mask off circles and curved lines easily. And if anybody has any recommended brands of tape is love to hear them! And I've never heard of intercoat? Could somebody clarify?
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I'm not familiar with it either. Frog tape has some for really sensitive areas might try it.
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I've been doing a ton of painting lately, bought a nice spray gun, painting every day, random things, etc etc so I figured I'd make an account on here to hopefully get some help from you more experienced users with the problems that I have and will probably occur.

Lately I've been painting a motorcycle helmet, the primary colors are silver and blue with yellow accents. The silver I need to use is a metallic silver. After I applied the silver coating (which went really well) I need to add painting tape around it to add the yellow accents. My problem is however that the masking tape I'm using is making impressions in the silver and tearing up small layers of it and making it look rough and just bad overall. The painters tape I'm using is 3M sensitive surface as well as 3M 1/8" precision vinyl. Both are pretty expensive stuff. I've been letting the paint dry in a well ventilated room for 12-16 hours. Can anybody give me some advice on what I'm doing wrong or how to avoid this? Does the paint need more time to cure properly? Any helpful input would be greatly appreciated!!
Don't wait for the paint to cure, remove it before it cures, almost immediately.
Just be very careful and peel slowly, start to peel with the fine point of an exacto knife lifting up a corner and go for it and you should be all set.
Over 2 hundred years or so ago, I used to paint cars. Hotrods, Harleys, etc. With lacquer too. That was the trick I used for things like flaming.

Good luck.

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