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Old 11-06-2012, 02:36 PM   #46
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We all know walmart paint is the lowest of the low, but if that is his price range, the next best thing would be Behr or Valspar paint and just pay a little more. I have used both and Behr was the better between the 2. Yes its not the best but it does go on smooth ( a little thick) and has good coverage. For someone wanting to do one coat, it can be dont for a $25-30 price/gallon. None of that is irresponsible to say. It is first hand experience from a consumer that has used it on sheds, exterior and interior walls of his own house with good results!
But I am betting you have never tried the paints, from a real paint store, that are in the same or lower price point as Behr, Valspar and others. Some of us have and know that although these are the contractor grades and not the top of the line consumer paints, they are still far superior in performance than the box store brands.

As for covering in one coat because "it looks good enough"? No real painter strives for one coat coverage or expects to find paint and primer in the same can. It just doesn't work out that way. The day it does, none of us will complain. Meanwhile we hate to see people taken in by the claims. In looking at most of the Behr comments here and other places, like the Consumer Reports, the majority of people using it seem not to have had the positive experience you have had with it. My encounters with the stuff have not been pleasant but it was donated so I fought three coats on to the walls.

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Old 11-06-2012, 05:12 PM   #47
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We all know walmart paint is the lowest of the low, but if that is his price range, the next best thing would be Behr or Valspar paint and just pay a little more. I have used both and Behr was the better between the 2. Yes its not the best but it does go on smooth ( a little thick) and has good coverage. For someone wanting to do one coat, it can be dont for a $25-30 price/gallon. None of that is irresponsible to say. It is first hand experience from a consumer that has used it on sheds, exterior and interior walls of his own house with good results!

There is not a paint made that will cover correctly in one coat
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:49 PM   #48
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Saw a friend not to long ago and she said "I think I'm going to have to get you to paint my living room" I said I thought you already painted it. She said she did 3 coats and you could still see thru it. I said what kind of paint did you use, she said Odd Lots $7 a gallon. Point -you get what you pay for.
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i painted my last home, a condo, with walmart paint. 2 coats and it was good. in 1 room i was going over dark brown with beige, no problems.
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There are a lot of house brand paints which work well. That's something you will never convince the professionals of. I'm not sure why the pro's protest so much about this. It's not really a threat to them if the homowners want to use paint from the big box stores. For the most part it's the same paint.....some is good, some is not so good. Paint in the pro paint stores fits into the same category.
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I'm not sure why the pro's protest so much about this.
It's simple, MB. When you warrant your labor for two years, you use products that you can be confident will hold up to at least normal usage (preferably beyond) for longer than two years. Recalls kill businesses.
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It's simple, MB. When you warrant your labor for two years, you use products that you can be confident will hold up to at least normal usage (preferably beyond) for longer than two years. Recalls kill businesses.

Warrant your labor? What has that go to do with the OP? A typical homeowner asked a simple question...it's not about painters or warranty issues. Maybe this DIY site should exclude professionals, like the pro sites exclude DIY users. It's getting to the point where the DIY have to work at getting a straight answer here...... This is supposed to be a KISS site.
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Warrant your labor? What has that go to do with the OP? A typical homeowner asked a simple question...it's not about painters or warranty issues. Maybe this DIY site should exclude professionals, like the pro sites exclude DIY users. It's getting to the point where the DIY have to work at getting a straight answer here...... This is supposed to be a KISS site.
Obviously I wasn't addressing the OP, I was addressing your comment. Pros prefer products with lower failure rates. No need to get your panties in a wad.
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Warrant your labor? What has that go to do with the OP? A typical homeowner asked a simple question...it's not about painters or warranty issues. Maybe this DIY site should exclude professionals, like the pro sites exclude DIY users. It's getting to the point where the DIY have to work at getting a straight answer here...... This is supposed to be a KISS site.

The OP asked for thoughts on Wallmart paint. He got answers from both sides, his choice now.
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A lot depends on if you are using the correct roller for the wall and if you know how to paint with a roller. I bet a lot of bad results are due to lack of 1 or both.
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Here's my (homeowner/DIYer) perspective.

Many years ago I bought my paint at the big box stores. Usually the results were okay. Then I painted my dining room and - what a mess. The paint would run, and there wasn't anything I could do about it. The result was horrid.

Of course, I thought it was me. I just couldn't paint worth a damn.

So on a whim I decided to try shopping at the local S-W store. Yikes, were their prices high. But really, for a small room you're only buying one gallon, so the cost difference is, say, $20. Not much, in the scheme of things. The results were okay, again. Nothing magical.

But since then I've kept buying from a paint store. And I keep getting okay results. For me, the little bit of extra cost is worth not having to sand off a runny mess every so often. I'd rather spend an extra $20 and apply two coats rather than three or four. All things equal, that results in half as many mistakes to correct, as well as my time and effort.

I still wonder at times whether I'm just being a sucker and overpaying. But time and again, I just spend the money and it works.

I haven't studied the ingredients, so I don't know if I'm paying for a better product, a more consistent product, or the name on the can. Once I get done sanding, cleaning, and taping off a room the last thing I need is for the paint to be meh. And if you're not taking the time to prep, it kinda doesn't matter about the paint much, does it?

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There is a reason we who do this for a living prefer what we prefer. And it is exactly the same reasons that it is better/ easier- cheaper in the long run for the DIY.
There aren't 2 sets of rules about how a paint behaves/ durability.
One for the pro, and one for the clueless.
Skill in applying helps one to spot differences quickly. Having many clients to see over the long run how things hold up is knowledge.
We could say-"I know this sucks ,but because you are a DIY you'll never know- so sure use the sucky stuff".
But we don't.
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Here's my (homeowner/DIYer) perspective.

Many years ago I bought my paint at the big box stores. Usually the results were okay. Then I painted my dining room and - what a mess. The paint would run, and there wasn't anything I could do about it. The result was horrid.

Of course, I thought it was me. I just couldn't paint worth a damn.

So on a whim I decided to try shopping at the local S-W store. Yikes, were their prices high. But really, for a small room you're only buying one gallon, so the cost difference is, say, $20. Not much, in the scheme of things. The results were okay, again. Nothing magical.

But since then I've kept buying from a paint store. And I keep getting okay results. For me, the little bit of extra cost is worth not having to sand off a runny mess every so often. I'd rather spend an extra $20 and apply two coats rather than three or four. All things equal, that results in half as many mistakes to correct, as well as my time and effort.

I still wonder at times whether I'm just being a sucker and overpaying. But time and again, I just spend the money and it works.

I haven't studied the ingredients, so I don't know if I'm paying for a better product, a more consistent product, or the name on the can. Once I get done sanding, cleaning, and taping off a room the last thing I need is for the paint to be meh. And if you're not taking the time to prep, it kinda doesn't matter about the paint much, does it?
If you look a round you can usually find coupons for SW pretty easy and if you do then the price is almost the same for a much better product. But even if the products perform the same I would still use the paint store because the people that work then only do paint, so if there is ever a problem you can talk to someone knowledgable with the product. And as for the coupon Ben Moore will honor SW coupons.
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Brushjockey....which paint brand(s) do you prefer?
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I am pretty much dialed in to Ben Moore- but i do use all their lines depending on the need.
Muralo is also a fav.
And Zinsser primers. Usually have 4 or 5 on hand. Just because paints say self priming doesn't mean I don't know better.
And XIM latex extender. the best.

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