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Old 02-08-2013, 04:20 PM   #16
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um...no, the paint binder is made less glossy by the amount of pigments added to the mix (not only paint colorants) - these pigments then absorb the binder creating a duller surface...while some of these pigments aid in hiding, that's not necessarily their main purpose. But it is the reason that flats typically hide better than flat hide better than sheened products (more pigment).

Typical glycol based colorants (universal colorants) are chalky flat when dry...some of the resin based type of colorants may have a little sheen to 'em, but they won't add to the overall sheen of a product.
If you read my original posts you will never seeing me saying that colorants where THE ONLY THING that changes gloss in a paint. I merely said that it does change it slightly and IT DOES.

This is a DIY Chat Room for DIY'ers. They dont need to know about binders and resins and really anything about the chemical makeup. This one was having trouble assessing which one to choose from. NOTHING ABOUT BINDERS... That's for the Pro board. Its called "situational awareness"! Oh yea and not all universal colorants are NOT flat. Go get some and try it out.

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #17
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I like eggshell on walls. Its cleanable friendly. Semi on trim to make it pop a little. Just a flat on ceiling.

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I would recommend at least an eggshell or satin.It does depend on the brand..sheens are more/less depending on brand,undercoat,different factors....but semi-gloss is too much sheen for walls...IMO.Too much sheen on anything looks tacky.
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If you read my original posts you will never seeing me saying that colorants where THE ONLY THING that changes gloss in a paint. I merely said that it does change it slightly and IT DOES.

This is a DIY Chat Room for DIY'ers. They dont need to know about binders and resins and really anything about the chemical makeup. This one was having trouble assessing which one to choose from. NOTHING ABOUT BINDERS... That's for the Pro board. Its called "situational awareness"! Oh yea and not all universal colorants are NOT flat. Go get some and try it out.
With all due respect, Mr. Grant, I'm not sure it's our place to say what the DIY'ers "need to know..." - When we are asked specific, pertinent questions, I feel we need to respond in a manner that not only directs them toward a proper resolution, but also as to why one product/system/method may be more appropriate than another...

Besides, in my earlier post, I was addressing that info to you - not the OP. The reason was because you had made a couple erroneous statements in your earlier posts, and while it may not be necessary for the OP to know all this, you should (especially if you're going to respond as a professional).

I read your original post...I did not misunderstand what you were saying or not saying, but when anyone here responds to another with information that's not quite accurate, I think we all have a responsibility to get involved and set the record straight - Just as you have attempted to do with myself and other responders.

Each member has their own perspective to respectfully add here to the benefit of DIYer's and responders both.

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Ok thanks for the paint chemical seminar and the front seat to " paint forum smackdown".

What I got out of this post is to go with eggshell on the walls and semi on the trim.

I just want it durable to washing and not be chaulky after application.

I am going with Benjamin Moore so this should narrow down the choices.
Which BM product should I use (and no need for a chemistry lesson)... Just what you would use!
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Benjamin Moore Regal eggshell would be my choice, and Regal semi on the trim.
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I would go with Benjamin Moore UltraSpec 500 in an eggshell finish which is ideal for bedrooms. In addition, eggshell paints are more durable and easier to clean than flat or matte finishes, and are able to hide imperfections in the paint surface. I would recommend semigloss for trim and not for walls.

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I would go with Benjamin Moore UltraSpec 500 in an eggshell finish which is ideal for bedrooms. In addition, eggshell paints are more durable and easier to clean than flat or matte finishes, and are able to hide imperfections in the paint surface. I would recommend semigloss for trim and not for walls.

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Oh ultraSpec 500 You will only find this at a BM paint store. Not somewhere which sells BM paint. Regal no problem any place which sells BM would have it. Example where i live Blains Farm n fleet carry's BM so does Ace hardware. I don't have a true BM dealer.

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