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Greenie 12-30-2012 12:24 PM

Paint removal tips or re-coat
 
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Hello fellow DIY's. I have dark floors that Have been getting white speckles of paint from somewhere. I looked around and I realized my laundry room doors were starting to peel the paint that was on it. I noticed that the paint under the new paint has a shine to it so im thinkjng that the two layers of paint are different types of paint. And the one on top of it was just peeling away so obviously I can scrape it all away which would be a long task however my question is can I just put a coat of primer over it all and seal it so that it prevents it from continuously peeling off on its own or do I have to scrape it all off first? I would just like the paint to stop peeling off and staining my dark wood floors and put a simple white coat on it since its just the laundry room doors.

Thanks in advance

joecaption 12-30-2012 12:29 PM

Remove the door and harware, lay it down on some saw horses and sand off all that top layer of paint and scuff up the rest of it.
Clean it all off.
Prime with a bonding primer and two coats of paint.
There is no such thing as a primer that can go over peeling paint.

ddawg16 12-30-2012 01:09 PM

Like Joe said, there is no 'magic' primer or paint that can go over peeling paint...

It's not that hard.....and is a good time to clean of the many coats of paint you also have on that door hardware......I think once you get going you will actualy enjoy the process.

Another option is to use paint stripper.....do the first part like Joe said....but then coat it with paint stripper....follow the instructions....

Greenie 12-30-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ddawg16
Like Joe said, there is no 'magic' primer or paint that can go over peeling paint...

It's not that hard.....and is a good time to clean of the many coats of paint you also have on that door hardware......I think once you get going you will actualy enjoy the process.

Another option is to use paint stripper.....do the first part like Joe said....but then coat it with paint stripper....follow the instructions....

Ok. Took doors off that wasn't easy with all the coats of paint on the hardware. And these hinges had top AND bottom pins which were painted sealed. Tiny little buggers.

Is paint stripper easier and less "mess" then sanding?

If so. Coat it strip it and then what?

Brushjockey 12-30-2012 04:05 PM

If it comes off fairly easy- Id use scrapers( experiment if a stiff or flex works the best- I would guess a 3" would be best-
and scrape off most of it. Sand smooth what ever is left.
Prime with a quality bonding primer. ( Z 123, many good choices)
Might have to do a little skimming if there were areas that just didn't want to come- sand and prime the mud.
finish with 2 coats quality acrylic trim paint.

The problem looks to me like someone painted latex over oil without prepping. By sanding you are also giving the primer something to grip to. I would not use stripper unless you want a really huge time consuming project.

Greenie 12-30-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brushjockey
If it comes off fairly easy- Id use scrapers( experiment if a stiff or flex works the best- I would guess a 3" would be best-
and scrape off most of it. Sand smooth what ever is left.
Prime with a quality bonding primer. ( Z 123, many good choices)
Might have to do a little skimming if there were areas that just didn't want to come- sand and prime the mud.
finish with 2 coats quality acrylic trim paint.

The problem looks to me like someone painted latex over oil without prepping. By sanding you are also giving the primer something to grip to. I would not use stripper unless you want a really huge time consuming project.

Ok so no stripper. Then just sand skim mud if needed. Prime and paint? What about getting the coats off the hardware?

Brushjockey 12-30-2012 04:58 PM

Most the time with a little effort it can just be chipped off. if you really want to go for it, remove it and throw it into a metal bucket with stripper overnight- and clean it off.

Thats chipped lol

jsheridan 12-30-2012 05:52 PM

When you start scraping that stuff, forget stripper because that will get the underlay coat involved unnecessarily, it's going to be flying everywhere, and it will be a pain to clean up. You'll find it everywhere, for weeks.

That stuff will basically come off with a fingernail. I would experiment with the bulk removal with some sort of adhesive, either a very tacky tape or sheet of contact paper. Press it on hard and rip it off fast, like a band-aid.

Unless the hinges are less functional due to the paint, I wouldn't mess with them. You'll only be stripping paint off to have to apply more. As you said, it's only a laundry room. But that's up to you.

As stated previously, give the surface a good scuff sanding to create a bondable surface for the next coats. Use 150 or 120 wt paper depending on the hardness of the undercoat.

joecaption 12-30-2012 07:23 PM

Buy new hardware and make the whole thing look like new.

chrisn 12-31-2012 04:33 AM

I have to agree :eek: with Joe on this , just get new, it might cost you $5

jsheridan 12-31-2012 07:23 AM

Could this become a trend? :eek:

Timely and appropriate advice Joe, welcome.

chrisn 12-31-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jsheridan (Post 1083048)
Could this become a trend? :eek:

Timely and appropriate advice Joe, welcome.


ahhhhhh NO:whistling2:

ToolSeeker 12-31-2012 11:06 AM

You know a new slab door is $20? Just a thought.


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