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Cruss 08-14-2011 07:44 PM

Paint or Paper Over Paneling
 
The room in question originally had paneling, was papered with a liner (horizontally), then papered with a textured vinyl wallpaper. It is still adhering very well after many years. Now, I would like to paint the room.

I pulled a sheet of wallpaper up a bit to see what would happen. It had been properly sized etc. and came off in one piece with a bit of effort but the old paste is on the lining and is too rough to paint over. What can I do? I am afraid that anything I try will loosen the liner.

Sobeit

jschaben 08-14-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruss (Post 707398)
The room in question originally had paneling, was papered with a liner (horizontally), then papered with a textured vinyl wallpaper. It is still adhering very well after many years. Now, I would like to paint the room.

I pulled a sheet of wallpaper up a bit to see what would happen. It had been properly sized etc. and came off in one piece with a bit of effort but the old paste is on the lining and is too rough to paint over. What can I do? I am afraid that anything I try will loosen the liner.

Sobeit

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Might try this stuff. I think it should handle everything except the sheet you removed. If it hardens up enough, you may be able to sand down the rough area and use a second coat of Gardz over it.
This is theory, I've not tried it yet, hope someone else will weigh in on experience with Gardz. I've got a couple of areas where paper has been applied over plaster and I'm afraid to pull down the paper for fear the plaster will come with it. Been there, done that, no fun. :censored:

Brushjockey 08-14-2011 10:38 PM

I think think-try and wash the paste off. If the liner loosens up, you must remove it and start from scratch.
Clean- prime with gardz, fill seams 2x, reprime, paint

m1951mm 08-15-2011 02:09 AM

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The liner paper was put on the paneling to give it a smooth surface, hiding the groves in the paneling, for the hanging of the wallpaper. I would oil base primer the whole thing, wallpaper and liner paper intact. You mentioned that everything was holding tight to the wall. The area that you pulled the wallpaper off of and the glue still showing (I sure hope you have not pulled ALL the wallpaper off yet) will need to be sanded down to smooth out the glue bumps. If you try to remove the adhesive with water you will more than likely damage the liner paper in which you will see the grooves in the paneling. Once the oil primer has dried you may need some joint compound applied and sanded over the seams of the wallpaper and the edge of the area where you pull the wallpaper face off. Caulk the top to the ceiling, the bottom to the base board. Dust down the walls after sanding the joint compound, prime again, you could use a latex primer now. The original oil primer has now given a moisture barrier to keep water from the surface. Then you are ready for a finish coat.

I would not trust the Guardz as your first primer coat as it is a water based product and will reactivate the adhesive under the paper and the liner, I have tried it and it really messup up my job, that is why I recommended an oil primer first coat. In some cases the Guardz will seal a SMALL amount of glue over drywall, but you are painting over layers of wallpaper, not drywall.

You have two threads asking the same question. Check both threads as they each now have different answers.

chrisn 08-15-2011 03:04 AM

Just do it right and remove the lining paper:yes:

m1951mm 08-15-2011 04:42 AM

Only remove the liner paper if you want grooves to show:whistling2:.


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