Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again) - Painting - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Painting

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-14-2011, 03:31 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


I painted my outside door trims white 3 years ago with Sherwin Williams All Surface Enamel Oil Base Gloss White.

It is already peeling. I also wire brushed and wiped it down good when I did it. They are now needing to be repainted for the third time in the 10 years I've owned this new home.

What is going on with this?

Advertisement

alan93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 03:54 PM   #2
NACE Coating Inspector
 
mustangmike3789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 524
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


have you been using any primer? a wire brush is fine for removing some of the loose paint. you should also sand the surface to provide a profile for the paint to bite to.

Advertisement

mustangmike3789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 04:00 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangmike3789 View Post
have you been using any primer? a wire brush is fine for removing some of the loose paint. you should also sand the surface to provide a profile for the paint to bite to.
Not really so evidently this stuff is way to complicated for me and I should have researched door trim painting before wasting my time and money.

After hearing that I am a little angry that a sales person at a paint store where paint is the only thing they sell didn't qualify me better on my purchase by asking me what I was using it for and thus could have recommended primer and any other technique I needed to use to get the most out of the paint to save me some troulbe.

As a result I have trouble and am writing Sherwin Williams about my experience.

Thanks.
alan93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 05:37 PM   #4
paper hanger and painter
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 6,865
Rewards Points: 2,238
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by alan93 View Post
Not really so evidently this stuff is way to complicated for me and I should have researched door trim painting before wasting my time and money.

After hearing that I am a little angry that a sales person at a paint store where paint is the only thing they sell didn't qualify me better on my purchase by asking me what I was using it for and thus could have recommended primer and any other technique I needed to use to get the most out of the paint to save me some troulbe.

As a result I have trouble and am writing Sherwin Williams about my experience.

Thanks.
Did YOU ask any questions? It is not the sales persons job to qualify every sale. You need to ask pertinent questions that they would be happy to answer and sell more of the proper products.

If you just went in and bought th paint, then they thought you knew what you wanted and what you were doing,apparently this was not the case.
chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chrisn For This Useful Post:
Tom Struble (08-14-2011)
Old 08-14-2011, 06:23 PM   #5
Member
 
Gymschu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Eastern Ohio (heart of Appalachia)
Posts: 3,044
Rewards Points: 2,300
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Sorry, but three years is about all you get out of wood door trim. It usually wicks water up from the bottom causing peeling near the base.........poor design flaw IMO. Also, most door trim (brick mold) is finger jointed wood and is prone to early paint failure. It's just one of those things you have to maintain every 2 or 3 years.
Gymschu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:29 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cape May, NJ
Posts: 2,392
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Alan, when you say "it's peeling", what does that mean? Where on the frame is it peeling? What is it peeling down to, bare wood or another paint layer? Gymschu stole my thunder, again. He's onto something about the base of the frames, which have a terrible track record for holding paint. Please be a little more specific with what, how, and where it's failing.
jsheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:51 PM   #7
Painting Company, NY
 
housepaintingny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 1,001
Rewards Points: 540
Blog Entries: 14
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisn View Post
Did YOU ask any questions? It is not the sales persons job to qualify every sale. You need to ask pertinent questions that they would be happy to answer and sell more of the proper products.

If you just went in and bought th paint, then they thought you knew what you wanted and what you were doing,apparently this was not the case.
Not to mention that the lable on the back of the can has instructions, including prep and primining.
housepaintingny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 09:47 PM   #8
Member
 
Gymschu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Eastern Ohio (heart of Appalachia)
Posts: 3,044
Rewards Points: 2,300
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by jsheridan View Post
Alan, when you say "it's peeling", what does that mean? Where on the frame is it peeling? What is it peeling down to, bare wood or another paint layer? Gymschu stole my thunder, again. He's onto something about the base of the frames, which have a terrible track record for holding paint. Please be a little more specific with what, how, and where it's failing.
I am patting myself on the back as I have "stolen the thunder" from Joe twice this week.
Gymschu is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Gymschu For This Useful Post:
jsheridan (08-14-2011)
Old 08-14-2011, 10:01 PM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cape May, NJ
Posts: 2,392
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Great minds think alike. I believe it's twice in one day, if not mistaken.
jsheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 10:35 PM   #10
jschaben
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: La Crosse, Kansas
Posts: 588
Rewards Points: 502
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


If this is the third go around in 10 years I would be inclined to replace it. Get new trim, prime and paint ALL faces, including the inside face and especially the ends, before installing it. Oil primer and topcoat.
__________________
John Schaben

"Where all think alike, no one is thinking very much"
jschaben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2011, 01:12 PM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


I think flaking is a better word for it and only in certain places but it will need to be redone.

Didn't see the word "directions" on label but I saw the word "wood" and under it it mentioned A-100 oil primer.

Learn something new every day.
alan93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2011, 01:14 PM   #12
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by jschaben View Post
If this is the third go around in 10 years I would be inclined to replace it. Get new trim, prime and paint ALL faces, including the inside face and especially the ends, before installing it. Oil primer and topcoat.
Speaking of replacing it. I have some rot at the bottom of one of the doors on the north side of the house. (storms come in from north west usually).

Whats the best way to repair that? Pull the entire frame (or only piece with rot) and replace with full trim?

I'm guessing about $200 for a job like that, am I right?
alan93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2011, 01:17 PM   #13
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gymschu View Post
Sorry, but three years is about all you get out of wood door trim. It usually wicks water up from the bottom causing peeling near the base.........poor design flaw IMO. Also, most door trim (brick mold) is finger jointed wood and is prone to early paint failure. It's just one of those things you have to maintain every 2 or 3 years.

ok , perhaps so, and I learned yet something else today. Life is harder when maintaining a home.

But I noticed the white railing on front of house (southside) seems to be holding up well I think i did at least 2 coats on it.
alan93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2011, 04:00 PM   #14
Member
 
Gymschu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Eastern Ohio (heart of Appalachia)
Posts: 3,044
Rewards Points: 2,300
Default

Paint On Outside Door Trims Peeling (Again)


If it is indeed Brickmold, alan, you can replace it with PVC brickmold that won't rot and won't need painted.

Advertisement

Gymschu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flat over Semi-Gloss dankreboot Painting 21 02-24-2013 08:46 PM
Dark over light...Do I need tinted primer? melissaandkris Painting 17 09-09-2011 11:43 AM
Flashing NoExperience Painting 13 09-04-2008 06:56 AM
peeling paint on asbestos (maybe) csandefer Painting 1 04-29-2008 06:48 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts