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tdrunner 01-09-2012 08:50 PM

Paint Lifting off of Moulding
 
Had an extensive closet addition built in a room that required replacement molding, toe molding. Original molding, toe molding was removed, cut to fit outside openings, refinished and was the hammered back in place after all painting was completed. All painted woodwork was palm sanded, hand sanded, primed and 2 coats of interior latex paint. The molding had previously been painted but originally was natural years ago with I guess a shellac on top. I have now discovered that the new paint and and all old paint underneath is now lifting in some spots (like paper flying in the wind)! I think the friction from hammering the toe molding back in place jarred all of what was ever there.

:furious:

I haven't even started the rug, curtain crap yet. Now What? Is there a easy fix without having to strip this down. I ran caulk along all molding where it met the wall before priming and painting.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry for the long drawn out description. I'm new.

titanoman 01-09-2012 09:03 PM

Buy new "toe moulding". Painting over shellac (even though you sanded it) can be kind of difficult.
Can't you "hammer" on it with a little finesse and a nail set?

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asbury park 01-10-2012 04:13 PM

So, if i primed and then painted over quarter round that had a wood finish it will eventually start peeling up? I have a room that i need to paint that has white baseboards with quarter round that has a wood finish. Need to change the quarter round to white.

tdrunner 01-10-2012 08:27 PM

Paint Lifting off of Moulding
 
I failed to say that the moulding the paint is coming off of isn't the toe moulding. It's the base moulding that was never removed. The toe moulding isn't painted and never was. That is what was removed and put back on. Since the floor is hardwood and I could get the rest of it off, I did so it would be easier to remove all the years of dirt, grime, sand and repoly. It came up really nice! Had I have know this was going to happen, I would have cleaned it up carefully without removing it. Some of these houses don't even have the toe moulding anymore. Even though this house was wall-wall carpet at one time, it was never totally removed.

All of the other rooms I've repainted the base moulding and never had this happen before BUT none of the toe moulding had ever been removed and put back either. All the wood work in this house was natural at one time. Way before I ever lived here it was all painted over. What a stupid decision.

:)

tdrunner 01-10-2012 08:32 PM

With what happened to me, I would sand and paint what you have and not remove and replace unless you replace the base too. I'm assuming when you say quarter round you mean toe or shoe moulding.

mudbone 01-10-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asbury park (Post 818736)
So, if i primed and then painted over quarter round that had a wood finish it will eventually start peeling up? I have a room that i need to paint that has white baseboards with quarter round that has a wood finish. Need to change the quarter round to white.

Lightly etc quarter rd. with 220 grit or so sandpaper to scuff it up.Use a good quaility stainblocking bond coat primer like zinsser primecoat 2 or similar primer and then apply topcoat of your choice.Make sure to clean trim prior to sanding and dust removal after sanding also.:thumbup:

mudbone 01-10-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdrunner (Post 817982)
Had an extensive closet addition built in a room that required replacement molding, toe molding. Original molding, toe molding was removed, cut to fit outside openings, refinished and was the hammered back in place after all painting was completed. All painted woodwork was palm sanded, hand sanded, primed and 2 coats of interior latex paint. The molding had previously been painted but originally was natural years ago with I guess a shellac on top. I have now discovered that the new paint and and all old paint underneath is now lifting in some spots (like paper flying in the wind)! I think the friction from hammering the toe molding back in place jarred all of what was ever there.

:furious:

I haven't even started the rug, curtain crap yet. Now What? Is there a easy fix without having to strip this down. I ran caulk along all molding where it met the wall before priming and painting.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry for the long drawn out description. I'm new.

YOu could use an air finishing nailer help reduce hammer shock.

PaintingTech 01-10-2012 10:38 PM

I wish I had something useful to say on this subject, that is super frustrating! Sorry to hear that, I am interested in knowing what you ended up doing

tdrunner 01-11-2012 03:44 PM

Paint Lifing off of Moulding
 
I couldn't keep my mitts off of it so I "peeled" some off last night at 10:00 to the point that I now have to fix it. My way of making sure it gets done right. I plan on scraping off what I can, resanding and will prime and paint it again. At least right now it's only 2 pieces of base moudling this is hapening to. I'll report back as to the progress. Might be a week or 2.

Thanks to all!


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