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Old 02-23-2007, 12:14 PM   #16
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From an amateur DIY, buy the paint that you think is the best, regardless of the cost. The time and prep far outweigh the cost of paint.

I have used SW and I have had great luck with it. Consumer reports ranks them very low, and they rank the Behr paints very high. I have since tried Behr and it seems ok.

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Old 02-23-2007, 09:00 PM   #17
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From an amateur DIY, buy the paint that you think is the best, regardless of the cost. The time and prep far outweigh the cost of paint.

I have used SW and I have had great luck with it. Consumer reports ranks them very low, and they rank the Behr paints very high. I have since tried Behr and it seems ok.
Do you have a link to the consumer reports page on this?

I've heard it before and now I'm curious. Painters don't like Behr but consumers do. I don't get it. Today, I painted with behr, bubblgum pink semi over rasberry red satin. Sanded the walls and two coats and it was done. It's not the most painter friendly paint, but it got the job done. This was a bathroom I painted for them a couple months ago.

I've casually tried to get specs on behr paint, including a phone call and couldn't get the info. My feeling is that the customer could have gotten paint at S/W that matches or exceeds the behr ingredients. 28/gal for the behr would have gotten better paint at S/W.
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Regarding American Tradition and Behr.. I would take Behr over AT any day of the week. Neither one is a "great" paint, but when choosing between the two I have to go with Behr.

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FWIW - I'm sure that every paint is 'decent' in it's own relative sense.

One of the issues to look at is also 'coverage'. The point about a quality paint.....also reflects ..... how many coats it takes to cover an area. Higher quality paints, as a whole, will cover in 1-2 coats very well (dependant on color hue, coloring change, surface, etc...)
The same surface painted with an 'inexpensive' brand paint (99.9 percent of the time) = takes 3-4 + ....coats for a comparable even coverage....

That is at least twice the amount of time and more, besides more 'run-off' of the inexpensive paint.

This is not only what you will most often find in 'consumer opinions'...but is a fact that we have clearly observed, .... and other companies that do professional painting will tell you the same.

We have actually done comparisons of two paints: Behr vs. Sherwin W. and the results were 'night and day' on coverage. (Home Owner had purchased her own Behr paints for interior. We mentioned that our contract had stipulated that the job was to be done with S.W.)
So, ..... We used each paint, but in different rooms/areas.....

Results: Took twice as long ($Labor$) with the non Sherwin Brand.
Now, I am not pushing S.W. brand, but am all for the higher quality brands similar to it (including Ben Moore, etc...)

The difference in time was so obvious that she OFFERED (we didn't ask)....to pay us for the wasted time we had to take using the 'other' brand to get an even coat.....

I am not stating Law on this.....just something to think about, make your own decisions and decide as you wish..... (But, this has been our experience)...
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That is a great tip!
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Do you have a link to the consumer reports page on this?

I've heard it before and now I'm curious. Painters don't like Behr but consumers do. I don't get it. Today, I painted with behr, bubblgum pink semi over rasberry red satin. Sanded the walls and two coats and it was done. It's not the most painter friendly paint, but it got the job done. This was a bathroom I painted for them a couple months ago.

I've casually tried to get specs on behr paint, including a phone call and couldn't get the info. My feeling is that the customer could have gotten paint at S/W that matches or exceeds the behr ingredients. 28/gal for the behr would have gotten better paint at S/W.
I don't have a link but if you ever look at the tests that consumer reports runs, they only rate like the end result of the paint. They don't have any categories about how easy or hard it is to put on, so painters who use it every day have preferences based on that.

Consumers don't really use paint everyday so they probably don't care or don't know what differences feel like, but just what the end result is.

Just my thoughts...
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I don't have a link but if you ever look at the tests that consumer reports runs, they only rate like the end result of the paint. They don't have any categories about how easy or hard it is to put on, so painters who use it every day have preferences based on that.

Consumers don't really use paint everyday so they probably don't care or don't know what differences feel like, but just what the end result is.

Just my thoughts...
Exactly, the consumer never realizes how hard the job was until he uses the proper paint and supplies.
Remember that a good paint job is not solely based on the paint (a good portion of it is) but rather on the preperation of the job before hand.

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