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Old 04-21-2013, 08:42 PM   #1
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I am planning to paint the entryway hall, staircase and upper hallway of my house. I've painted several rooms in my house last year and my entire condo before I sold it. I used Behr and Para Lifestyles (from Lowes) for all this. I primed and painted two coats. That's about all the experience I have with painting. As far as I can tell, they turned out fine.

Sherwin-Williams is having a 40% off sale so I figured it was a good time to buy some better quality paint. I went to the local store and the salesperson really pushed their new Emerald line of paint. So, I picked up four gallons of that (not yet tinted) and two gallons of Deckscapes Waterborne clear deck sealer for my deck. Now, I normally do a lot of research before buying anything. However, I was of the opinion that SW paints were good based on previous research, and at least as good as Benjamin Moore. So, I never bothered researching anything before I went shopping. Now, I regret it.

I did some research when I got home and was very unimpressed with what I had been reading about this Emerald paint. Heck, even the Duration line of paint didn't seem all that impressive either. I found the same poor reviews for the Deckscapes as well. Everything I bought seemed like a waste of money - even on sale. So, now I am trying to decide what to do. Do I return it for a refund? Change it for another line of paint like Duration or Superpaint (I don't need one coat paint or "no primer required" paint either)? or did I just read the wrong forums/reviews and the paint is just fine? So, is SW paint any good or what?????

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SW sure isn't what it used to be.
I stopped using it a couple of years ago.

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I've personally had good results with Deckscapes, solid acrylic. I've never had much appreciation for their other products though. I've had a few problems/dislikes with them over the years. I've been a hard line BM guy most of my life, and can't really say I've had any problems. The one SW product it seems people rally around is SuperPaint. I have a job coming up where the lady wants me to use SW, and I think I'm going with that.
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I think I am going to return the Deckscapes and change the Emerald to Superpaint.

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Ok, I went back today and returned the Deckscapes and the Emerald. After talking to the sales person about the various paint lines I ended up with Cashmere/Opulence. Basically I decided to go with Cashmere over the Superpaint because of the sheen. I didn't want it to be too shiny (which some people complained about with Superpaint and Duration) so I decided to go with a matte finish instead of the satin. Superpaint doesn't have matte, so Cashmere it was.

Hopefully it will be worth the extra money compared to the Big Box store stuff.
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Cashmere is sweet. Just go two coats. It flows real nice. ON SW its either superpaint or cashmere in my opinion.
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I finished this ocean front house last Friday with SW woodscapes stain.I was impressed with the quality.It coverd fantastic and brushed smoothly.SW is not my brand of choice but the quality of their paints is quite high.
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Nice work, Charlie. I have always liked SW's Woodscapes. I have many jobs still going strong after 8-10 years with minimal fading.
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I have a local guy around here, quality guy, says he uses Deckscapes on siding as opposed to Woodscapes. Says he likes the added durability, any thoughts?
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I have a local guy around here, quality guy, says he uses Deckscapes on siding as opposed to Woodscapes. Says he likes the added durability, any thoughts?
Hmmmm, interesting, Joe. I have never considered doing that. I've always been happy with the Woodscapes. Deckscapes semi-transparent has not impressed me. I have used it on decks and have had to go back and redo some of those decks after a year. I like to get at least 2-3 years out of any deck stain.
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Cashmere is sweet. Just go two coats. It flows real nice. ON SW its either superpaint or cashmere in my opinion.
Definitely going primer plus two coats. Don't think I could live with myself if I didn't, lol.

Any recommendations on a deck product? Based on what I've read on various forums a lot recommend Sikkens and Cabot products. It's a pressure treated wood deck and it's all new to me (first house). I just want to maintain it properly. It's currently not stained and it's definitely due for something.
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I finished this ocean front house last Friday with SW woodscapes stain.I was impressed with the quality.It coverd fantastic and brushed smoothly.SW is not my brand of choice but the quality of their paints is quite high.
It covered fantastic, and went on smoothly, but its not your brand of choice?

What is your brand of choice, If you dont mind me asking. I have a small

amount exterior work to do, so price is really no issue. I just want the

best. I was told by a female professional painter that there is no equal to

Pratt and Lambert (sp) for exterior work, but of course the ratings don't

score it too high. I wonder why, as she seems to really know her stuff.
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Definitely going primer plus two coats. Don't think I could live with myself if I didn't, lol.

Any recommendations on a deck product? Based on what I've read on various forums a lot recommend Sikkens and Cabot products. It's a pressure treated wood deck and it's all new to me (first house). I just want to maintain it properly. It's currently not stained and it's definitely due for something.

I don't know on the deck. The guys use to like Cabots. I don't have a deck. Cement patio. Decks are high maintance. Your going to need a powerwasher and a deck cleaner then proceed. Wet the deck real good. Then the deck cleaner with a broom scrub brush then rinse. Let dry good hit it with something. Like i said the guys use to like cabots.

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We use SW paints for exterior painting projects and have had great results over the years.
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Most any manufactuer has quality paint if you buy the mid to high end products.I don't talk about my favorite brand here because I am not going to argue about it or defend it.It works for me.

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