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Old 04-20-2011, 02:29 AM   #1
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I moved into older home that has wood paneling in bedrooms & wonder if I can paint over the panels, maybe use new deck stain that's semi- opaque, or
what? The wood is just too dark for bedrooms. I appreciate any advice & input concerning this project! Thanks for your time, Eliz (redsphoto)

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Yes you can paint. The paneling must be clean, free of wax especially. Apply an oil based bonding primer, paint.
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Yes you can paint. The paneling must be clean, free of wax especially. Apply an oil based bonding primer, paint.
Eliz, chrisn's point is important. Is it wood panel or is it wood paneling, the thin stuff that is hung 4x8 sheets? In the old days they use to wax wood panel and that could give you a problem. A good way to test if it's been waxed, it it's wood panel, is to run a piece of light weight sandpaper over it for a few minutes. If it's waxed, the wax will clog the sandpaper.
I'm not sure if they waxed the faux 4x8 sheet goods paneling, anyone else know?

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Yes, its the thin sheets but larger than the 4x8sheets,as they rum floor to ceiling with no seams, except every 3 ft around room. Don't know if waxed since new but lite sanding appears to remove stain.
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If there is no waxy build up on the paper it probably doesn't have wax. I would do a spot test for bonding before jumping into the whole job. You need an oil based bonding prime like chrisn pictured, this will lock down the stain and provide a bond coat on the glossy surface. It's Zinsser Cover Stain, odorless or regular. Cheapest price is Home Depot. Give a small surface section a sanding with 120 grit sandpaper, dust it off, then apply some Cover Stain. Let it set for a couple of days and then test if for bond. Try scratching it off with your fingernail and do a tape test, place a strip of blue tape or masking on the section, press it on then tear it off quickly. Hopefully, the primer will stay on the wall. If you get a bond, you can continue on and do the rest of the room. It will most likely work, however, it's best to know prior to jumping in whether what you're doing will be effective. Check back if further questions.
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painted paneling looks great .first wash then rinse ,this sounds like a vintage 1970 paniling? a light scuff sanding wouldn't hurt you are only deglossing , if paneling has any knots spot prime wit bin shellac base primer over knots. then prime whole surface with zinsser cover stain.ok now this is key after primer has dried caulk in any gapes around baseboard or crown molding ,or corner moulding .dont rush dry times then top coat with top quality flat or satin latex
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I do believe that y'all probably saved me from a lot of sweat & tears! I will take my time when i begin this project this weekend! I will begin at Home Depot after work on Friday*VBG!!!
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Do I use dirtex (powderd) to wash /rinse as I did for bathroom walls b4 that paint project? Or simple green, vinegar-water, or something else? Still have to buy the zinsser, & caulk.
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I would use the dirtex, plus you may some left and know the product. I like to do my sanding first if there is no grime on the surface. That way I'm cleaning and tacking the dust in one step. If you buy caulk at HD, buy an siliconized caulk, not painters caulk. Not silicone, siliconized, just make sure it's paintable. They have some nice GE brand caulks I like. Good Luck.
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I do believe that y'all probably saved me from a lot of sweat & tears! I will take my time when i begin this project this weekend! I will begin at Home Depot after work on Friday*VBG!!!

Please, please ,PLEASE, do not buy the finish paint there
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Please, please ,PLEASE, do not buy the finish paint there
Ok, I will shop around for the finish paint! I have quite abit of work to do before I get to to last coat of paint though! !!! I appreciate all the advice, I I'm confident I will have the best looking bedroom ever! Then I will do the 2nd BR, the hallway. The Livingroom & kitchen!"! The paneling is everywhere,lol.
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I painted my wood panelling walls when we moved here 5 years ago.(I do have some before/after picks on my profile) I used the zinser primer, made sure to do 2-3 coats on the lower parts of the walls where people bump it. It's runny and smells horrid but seems to do the trick. In heavily used areas like hallway, just the bottom half- I did sand the walls abit to help even further with adhesion. I have two kids in a small house so the walls get beat up pretty bad. I have had to do touchups over the years where paint would chip off and reveal an ugly brown spot but it's no big deal you would have to do that with drywall too.Not sure if my walls had a waxy coat but they were definitely "slick" and alittle shiny. I did end up re-painting the kitchen in a terra cotta due to the light walls showing dirt from grubby little hands so I went with a semigloss and it's holding up MUCH better than the satin I had used before. Not as attractive, but more functional. If you don't have people banging around you'll probably have excellent results, if you have rough kids you'll be touching up some but it shouldn't be too big of a problem. Overall I'm happy with the painted panelling. Looks good, have gotton alot of compliments on it, most people don't notice it's panelling unless they really look. If I did all over again, the only things I would have done different is bought the most expensive paint I could like Ben Moore (I used Valspar, it's OK, used Behr on the kitchen re-paint, it was alot better) or something, also would have got a sander and sanded the heck out of the walls.
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I was considering using sander as well, just need to be careful not to "dig into " the wood, I'm sure! I was also leaning towards theBen Moore paint, have a neighbour that works for then in some capacity, has logo on shirt, so i will ask him at local gas station /deli this weekend...yes I do live out in the country now(big city girl gone wild in rural Texas, LOL)
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I second what ltd said. Caulk around the molding etc, and don't forget the vertical seams between the paneling sheets, otherwise they will show as dark lines against your light paint.

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