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RegLearning 01-20-2013 07:12 PM

Oak Banister and stringers
Hey guys,

I wanted to re-stain my banister and stringers up my stairs. Currently they are a stained light colour then covered with polyurethane. I want to do them in a darker colour. My thoughts would be sand till bare wood then stain 2 coats the poly 2 coats. I read that you can use polyshades over the current coating with only a light sanding. Thoughts? Also what products do you guys recommend?

cdaniels 01-20-2013 07:15 PM

It would take a heck of a lot of sanding to get down to raw wood again but if you have the time, go for it. There are other options though.You could sand it lightly with 220 and apply a gel stain and poly.

joecaption 01-20-2013 07:21 PM

Do not use polyshade for anything!!! Unless your into to a blotchy finish.
Going to have to sand off all the old poly, any left behind will not except the stain.
Use a gel stain not liquid for more control.
Tape off or cover anything you do not want the stain on, there's a reason they call it stain.
It's to each there own but I like the look of a wipe on poly. Main thing I like is instead of having to sand it all off and start off when it wears off unlike a reguler poly I can just wipe some more on.

Brushjockey 01-20-2013 07:29 PM

This is not an easy thing for a DIY- but it is possible to tint coats of poly ( not the pretinted stuff- but custom made on the spot), and layer it up to make it darker.
This is by far the easiest solution - but is not unskilled.

I have a job coming up to do exactly this, and I will use Zar Ultra Max (waterborne Alkyd poly) and use transtints for color.

RegLearning 01-20-2013 07:48 PM

If I got all the poly off I can just gel stain over then rub on poly?

Brushjockey 01-20-2013 08:23 PM

You have no idea how hard it will be to remove the coating.
Very hard.
And if the wood is sealed- it will not accept a stain into it- it would just lay on top.

RegLearning 01-20-2013 08:29 PM

You make a great point. I think I'm going to run some trials and then see what works. Where do you get the stuff you were speaking of brush jockey?

RegLearning 01-20-2013 08:30 PM

You think it will be that hard just to get the poly off? What about strippers (not the kind that take their clothes off) to remove the poly the sand the stain then poly?

cdaniels 01-20-2013 08:33 PM

I believe Brushjockey has offered you the best solution.Don't know why I didn't think of it, although I have used gel stain over a sanded poly and polyurethane over the gel stain with very good results.

RegLearning 01-20-2013 08:48 PM

I did some searching and I can't get that product in Canada. I am also a little unclear of the steps that would be involved even if I could get zar's.

Brushjockey 01-20-2013 09:10 PM

That's the skilled part. might be worthwhile to find a pro that can do it.

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