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sky jumper 04-19-2013 10:04 PM

new Graco Truecoat Plus II
 
anyone use the new Graco Truecoat Plus II? supposedly fully repairable? does that include the piston?

and how is it different from the Truecoat Pro II? looks like the same sprayer to me, but the Pro II comes with a case??

JMDPainting 04-20-2013 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sky jumper (Post 1163123)
anyone use the new Graco Truecoat Plus II? supposedly fully repairable? does that include the piston?

and how is it different from the Truecoat Pro II? looks like the same sprayer to me, but the Pro II comes with a case??

I've found when it comes to sprayers the old saying "you get what you pay for" is very true.

I wouldn't even consider that sprayer, however I paint for a living, so if you are just looking to do some small jobs around the house like lattice work or a small fence you may be ok. As far as being repairable at that price I'd use it until it died and throw it away. It's basically a toy.

I know there are videos that show people painting trim, ceilings , walls and even the exterior of a home, but if you try that you will regret it. No way that sprayer will have the power to push the paint the way you will need it to for a big job.

If you've got a big job to do rent a Graco 390 or a Titan 440 and get it done right. Sherwin Williams Stores in my area rent them.

sky jumper 04-20-2013 07:18 AM

well I need to paint a couple doors and some trim. a series of small interior jobs. I would never use this on an exterior (I roll and brush for that).

would your comments also apply to the Graco magnum X5?

I don't want to rent a sprayer because then I'd be be bound by the rental schedule to get the job done. I don't have the luxury of much free time, so I will do this in bits and pieces as my schedule alows.

sky jumper 04-20-2013 08:00 AM

since you are painting contractor, let me tell you a little more about what I'm trying to do.

as part of a bathroom remodel we hired a painter to paint the old 1980s stained pine doors and the *brand new* primed pine trim . the results were disastrous. it looks like a 100 year old farm house with 50 coats of paint slathered all over everything. sags, thick brush marks, excessive build up in the corners & crevices, etc. just horrible. like a 3 year old did it. not just the door - the brand new trim looks just as bad if not worse. so I'm going to pull the trim off and re-trim the doors, but I want to save the door panels if possible.

I also have a new construction sliding door that is raw pine and needs to be painted.

after seeing the resutls of a professional painter with a brush, I'm doing this myself with a sprayer.

ToolSeeker 04-20-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sky jumper (Post 1163292)
since you are painting contractor, let me tell you a little more about what I'm trying to do.

as part of a bathroom remodel we hired a painter to paint the old 1980s stained pine doors and the *brand new* primed pine trim . the results were disastrous. it looks like a 100 year old farm house with 50 coats of paint slathered all over everything. sags, thick brush marks, excessive build up in the corners & crevices, etc. just horrible. like a 3 year old did it. not just the door - the brand new trim looks just as bad if not worse. so I'm going to pull the trim off and re-trim the doors, but I want to save the door panels if possible.

I also have a new construction sliding door that is raw pine and needs to be painted.

after seeing the resutls of a professional painter with a brush, I'm doing this myself with a sprayer.

What did this "pro painter" say when you called him back and showed him what you were unhappy about. I really hope if it's what you say it is you did not let him just walk away. Yes I think the X5 would be a better chose. And spraying has a learning curve, practice and then practice some more. Are you buying this at someplace where you can talk to someone about tips and tip sizes as these are important factors. If you are buying at a big box store or online the units usually come with a tip that pretty generic and I don't think I would trust them to help much. I guess what I'm saying is you may be better off going to a regular graco dealer.

sky jumper 04-20-2013 10:13 AM

first he denied there was a problem. then he blamed the paint. then he said there's nothing he can do about it. he is a close friend of my in-laws, so there you have it.

here's a few pics of the "pro" paint job. keep in mind the trim was brand new primed pine....

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/4844/img6042u.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/4463/img6043rm.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img854/5999/img6047n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img402/8605/img6048q.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/1020/img6049v.jpg

ToolSeeker 04-20-2013 12:59 PM

He may be a friend of the in-laws and he may be a lot of other things. But he sure as h#%% ain't no painter. "Problem what Problem". You have your hands full just getting it back to being paintable.

JMDPainting 04-22-2013 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sky jumper (Post 1163277)
well I need to paint a couple doors and some trim. a series of small interior jobs. I would never use this on an exterior (I roll and brush for that).

would your comments also apply to the Graco magnum X5?

I don't want to rent a sprayer because then I'd be be bound by the rental schedule to get the job done. I don't have the luxury of much free time, so I will do this in bits and pieces as my schedule alows.

The X5 would be a much better choice for what you want to do. I recently used one in a pinch and it held up for 4 weeks applying 80 gallons per week , then it just died but I didn't even expect to to last that long. Doing small job that you mentioned it should last years.

flyboylr45 05-01-2013 05:55 PM

For what it's worth, I bought a Truecoat Pro 2 electric and painted a few doors and love the thing. It's a lot easier that pulling out the airless (I have a 390). Not a pro just a DIYer with a LOT of tools. ;-)


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