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Old 03-22-2007, 02:32 AM   #16
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Absolutely, but he said it was painted...and who knows with what.

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Old 03-22-2007, 10:43 PM   #17
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New drywall?
You could I suppose
Not really the best stuff though
Sloppy as all get out and no "white" what so ever...it's clear
Well that seems strange.....I wonder why no white?

I'll try the S-W store next time we get some drywall work, would you prefer it for skim-coating?

Thanks for the tip.
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I'll try the S-W store next time we get some drywall work, would you prefer it for skim-coating?
Not per say, no
But on any ripped drywall, leftover wallpaper adhesive, chalky paint, etc., I use it before skim coating or repair (mud)
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Well that seems strange.....I wonder why no white?
All coatings, paint or primer, are a compromise
Adhesion, coloring, scrubabilty, sheen, coverage, leveling, hiding, sealing, dry time, clean-up, sandability...etc...
That's why there's no one primer that's best for everything

When you get into specialty primers, they excel in certain areas but will lack in others
Like pigmented shellac
Super adhesion, rock hard, can seal out just about anything (fire/mold recovery)
But looks blotchy until painted, and doesn't sand well, clean up well, or apply well

Gardz is truly a great specialty primer in that it can turn a soft, fuzzy, chalky, failing, surface, penetrate it, harden it up, help it adhere (it being the substrate, or surface being primed-that's amazing-primers don't do that) and make a surface that would previously have to be removed or covered actually repair/paint-able

I'm assuming the product simply did not pigment well
I don't know for sure, I'm just happy it does what it does
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But as I mentioned, it's also sloppy, and it's not good at leveling either
Sort of like painting with watered down Elmer's Glue
(hey...it could be )
I wouldn't use it on non-problem areas like new drywall, repainting with an extreme color change, or a simple repair area (new joint compound)
There's better products for those applications
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Thanks for the info, Slick, we're gonna try it (if I can find it, lol).

Right now we use Cover Stain probably 90% of the time, along with some BINS and 123. It's hard to beat the drying time, adhesion and sandability of Cover Stain.

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