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Old 08-24-2007, 12:22 AM   #1
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I just found a nice but simple black wooden end table that's a little worn. Do I just use regular semi gloss black paint on this after I finish sanding it or do I need primer as well? How do you get that nice smooth to the touch finish you sometimes see in higher priced furniture?

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That depends on what the finish is on it now
Do you know what it is?

I believe the finish you are referring to is black lacquer

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No I have no idea. I'm guessing I wouldn't be very successful doing a black lacquer finish.
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I don't know of a good DIY way off-hand


If you wanted to paint the item, it would need a scuff sanding, dusting/cleaning, and I'd recommend a shellac-based primer/sealer and two coats of waterborne enamel
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I almost always agree with Slick, but this time I'm gonna differ.

I would recommend using oil base on furniture simply because, in my experience, latex finishes don't dry as hard as oil does; which I think is critical for furniture.

If you spray it with an airless it might turn out to be pretty nice looking.
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I would recommend using oil base on furniture simply because, in my experience, latex finishes don't dry as hard as oil does; which I think is critical for furniture.
You would be correct, and it's not just your opinion, it's a fact
Todays waterborne enamels are almost as good as their oil-based (alkyd) counterparts, but the durability (and a few other points) still goes to the oils

I wouldn't have a problem recommending either
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Best bet is to use a spray can of black for the top coat. Don't use latex on funiture.

Best to prime, but you can get away with scuffing and painting. Use two coats of spray paint. Sand the primer with a 220 sandpaper (if you prime)and then sand the first coat of paint with 400 or higher grit before spraying the final coat. Another way is to apply a clear coat of desired sheen after painting and sanding with the 400.

The smooth finish comes from letting it dry in a dust free enviornment.
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You would be correct, and it's not just your opinion, it's a fact
Todays waterborne enamels are almost as good as their oil-based (alkyd) counterparts, but the durability (and a few other points) still goes to the oils

I wouldn't have a problem recommending either
I see 13 oz spray cans of this in my local lowes for $5.50. That's the only I've seen so I'll probably get a can.

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Best bet is to use a spray can of black for the top coat. Don't use latex on funiture.

Best to prime, but you can get away with scuffing and painting. Use two coats of spray paint. Sand the primer with a 220 sandpaper (if you prime)and then sand the first coat of paint with 400 or higher grit before spraying the final coat. Another way is to apply a clear coat of desired sheen after painting and sanding with the 400.

The smooth finish comes from letting it dry in a dust free enviornment.
Thanks for the advice. What is the significance of paint from a spray can? Isn't that latex paint? Is all the sanding during the painting process necessary to get a smooth finish even if through you're spraying everything on?

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