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Old 03-25-2011, 01:01 PM   #1
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I am tinking about painting our home this summer myself rather than hire a contractor. My thinking is - they'll come in and spray and be done in no time. I would paint by hand thinking it will be a better application. With that - a few questions?

1. In reviewing Consumer Reports, seems like Sherman-Williams Duration is the best exterior out there. At $55 per gallon, that's a little high, but I like the one coat idea. Would you agree this is probably what I should consider?

2. Typically, should the exterior paint be flat or semi-gloss?

3. Our new gutters are a forest green. Any suggestions on a website that we can see what colors we may want to consider that will compliment the gutter color?

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Old 03-25-2011, 01:23 PM   #2
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I am tinking about painting our home this summer myself rather than hire a contractor. My thinking is - they'll come in and spray and be done in no time. I would paint by hand thinking it will be a better application. With that - a few questions?

1. In reviewing Consumer Reports, seems like Sherman-Williams Duration is the best exterior out there. At $55 per gallon, that's a little high, but I like the one coat idea. Would you agree this is probably what I should consider?
It's my experience that no paint covers in one coat. It may look acceptable, but one coat does not allow the true color or sheen to develop. The first coat seals the surface, some of the sheen is absorbed,therefore muted. With one coat, the base color still influences the new color. When you're doing it, test if for yourself, you'll see what I mean.
2. Typically, should the exterior paint be flat or semi-gloss?
You can do whatever you like. However, typical is similar to interior finishing. Exterior ceilings flat. Siding is flat or low luster. And trim is satin or semi.

3. Our new gutters are a forest green. Any suggestions on a website that we can see what colors we may want to consider that will compliment the gutter color? Gutters and downspouts are not trim, and are generally painted to be hidden, to disappear. Usually painted the color of what they're attached to, gutters to the roof line trim, downspouts to the siding color. Is your trim currently forest green?

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Yes - the gutters we purchased have the enamel baked paint on them (the forest green). The trim around the window are also forest green. The siding to the hime is an off-white. I would be open to painting the trim a different color - one that would compliment the gutter color and the color that we may ultimately choose for the siding.

So -just to clarify, the siding would be flat? Would you suggest oil base or enamel? Also - can these paints include a chemical to stop mold? For example, the metal edges that are on the corner siding - it seems as though spots are coming through the existing paint. I was thinking I may want to prime these areas with an inhibitor of some sort, but maybe we can have that put into the exterior paint.

Thanks Joe for your time in answering my questions...
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What kind of siding/trim do you have and what is coated with currently?
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The trim is your standard wood trim and we have cedar siding.
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When most professionals spray your exterior they back brush, back roll the paint working it into the substrate. That would be standard practice. In general you are getting a thicker mil thickness when spraying. Duration is a great paint and it does apply thicker than most paints. You will still have to prime the substrate as needed. If you wanted to save some money you could use SW Super Paint which is my exterior paint of choice and has been for years. It is also a SW premium paint, but cheaper price.
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Thank you. I will get the Superpaint from SW. Do they have something to add to it to stop a little mold - as we have a little up under our eaves (not much) and on the metal siding corners. Take care - and I appreciate your help!
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Thank you. I will get the Superpaint from SW. Do they have something to add to it to stop a little mold - as we have a little up under our eaves (not much) and on the metal siding corners. Take care - and I appreciate your help!
SW SuperPaint has mildicide in it, but yes they do sell an additive to put into the paint. Your quality paints that are 100% acrylic resin should have mildicides in them. Be sure to wash your house first, especially if you have mold/mildew growth.
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Thanks for the pic post, your mention of metal corners makes sense now. Just wire brush the corners, if you want to prime, as housepaintingny will tell you, there is specialty primer for weathered aluminum, which I'm assuming they are. I'd just paint them myself, he'll correct me. If you have a Ben Moore dealer local, think about using their Moor line, Gard (low luster), Life (flat), and Glo (sort of semi). The low luster I use bonds like crazy and has a real nice long lasting finish. I wouldn't use anything higher than a low luster, with that amount of siding the house will glow and require sunglasses to view. Use MoorGlo on the trim. As to the gutters/spouts, do you really want them highlighted green? I'm not sure that will look too peachy. I have a customer who got new gutters close to the color she wanted to paint the house, then we matched the paint to the gutters. Personally, I would paint the gutters whatever color you do the trim with. My opinion, for what it's worth.
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Thank you! The gutters came with a baked enamel on them - and, quite honestly, I would rather not repaint them. I was wondering if we could keep the gutters the forest green as treat it as an accent, and ten perhaps find a complimentary color for the window trim and a new color for the siding. I will check and see if we have that supplier locally. I appreciate your comments!!
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Thank you! The gutters came with a baked enamel on them - and, quite honestly, I would rather not repaint them. I was wondering if we could keep the gutters the forest green as treat it as an accent, and ten perhaps find a complimentary color for the window trim and a new color for the siding. I will check and see if we have that supplier locally. I appreciate your comments!!
I don't blame you not wanting to paint them. It might look fine, people put white on colored trim all the time. As to the Ben Moore, that's my product line of choice, and each painter has their own preference. Whatever product you choose, you have an idea of what type of finish to consider, and each brand will have an option for you. Check back with anything else, especially when you begin the prep.

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