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Old 02-03-2011, 07:24 PM   #16
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Krylon rubs off plywood as black dust


ok ....test piece of ''pine'' door sprayed and dried with 2 coats of krylon fusion flat.........dried with 2 hairdryers.....


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it didnt rub off, post a pic soon


ok, my opinon now is that the material you sprayed taking into consideration that you had stain on prior for some reason rejected the krylon..........maybe small percentage didnt dry correctly and formed a layer that when wiped came off as a type of residue? ..........


now as to answer your question about furniture:


- i still recomend krylon flat or you could base prime with Zinsser cover stain oil primer then spray or brush flat paint...check the paint store they sell a washable flat thats probabl more durable then regular flat............ill post more later ....help this helped

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Thanks for checking that out. I think you're right.

One more question. I can barely smell the spraypaint sometimes now that the boards are in the living room. Will that go away?
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Old 02-04-2011, 10:51 PM   #18
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Yes...the reason it's "dusting-off" is because it's FLAT.

Flats have a much rougher surface than glossier sheens. That's how flats scatter light in different directions...therefore looking "flatter". They are literally "rougher".

I don't care what the cans say...on wood like yours, prime it...THEN paint it. The surface finish ALWAYS looks better when primed first.

Don't use Flat again for furniture use!!!
Use at least a Satin.
The ONLY thing a flat should be used on is a CEILING.
I wouldn't sell any of our customers a Flat knowing it was going on furniture....

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Old 02-05-2011, 06:24 PM   #19
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the reason it's "dusting-off" is because it's FLAT.
Hmmm, any idea why it doesn't dust off for Ole34?

P.S. Is that a Samoyed?
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:30 PM   #20
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Hmmm, any idea why it doesn't dust off for Ole34?

P.S. Is that a Samoyed?

maybe different materials..........i sprayed a pine slab door ....no primer just 2 coats off spray..........in between dry times
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Ole's experiment was bare wood apparently.
Most of his 2 coats would've soaked right in.

You had 4 coats on wood with possible lingering contamination. Also...your coats MAY have been too heavy, and/or not enough dry-time between coats.

Even with PERFECT prep and technique though...this can happen sometimes with a Flat.
The higher sheens are smoother, and have a tighter surface-film...therefore MUCH more suitable to harder-wearing surfaces. Flats have no place in that environment.

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That's our Samoyed, Callie! That pic was taken when She was 2 mo. old I think. Born 9-15-09. Now She's about 40 lbs. It was so damn cute...She'd go over to that patio door 2 or 3 times a day for her "Puppy nap". Sometimes she'd sleep on her back!

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Thanks Faron. I had a couple of Samoyed/Kuvasz mixes. Great dogs and huge but the Kuvasz made them so suspicious of strangers and especially other dogs. They lived to 16 1/2.
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I can still smell the spraypaint on the plywood platforms when I get near them. It's been about 5 days. Should that go away?
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It will go away after a while.
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I can still smell it when I get close and it's been about 6 weeks. I guess that will probably last forever? Is this happening because I used flat spraypaint instead of semi-gloss?
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I can still smell it when I get close and it's been about 6 weeks. I guess that will probably last forever? Is this happening because I used flat spraypaint instead of semi-gloss?
Think new-car-smell. Or new-carpet-smell. Or walking into an house that has been painted recently. It won't last forever.

What are you using the panels for? I don't think you ever said.
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It's basically furniture for holding stereo equipment. Thanks for the info, I'm glad it won't last forever.
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Your problem was most likely over spray.

I get the best results with Fusion by applying multiple, light coats. I wait 15-20 minutes between coats, not 10 and not 30. If it's not possible to apply another coat within that time frame, I wait until the next day.

Flat Fusion works equally as well as satin or gloss. The composition of the paint, the fact that it bonds to the surface it's applied to, and it's unique spray nozzle make it, IMO, a little different than "regular" spray paint. Once a good light coat is applied, any more spraying (before 15-20 minutes or 24 hours) can lead to a "dusting" of the surface - a kind of colored mist that has nothing to bond to.

It seems the only thing that Krylon Fusion doesn't adhere well to is wet Krylon Fusion. Make of that what you will.

Also keep in mind that it's available in clear. Depending on the application, a clear top coat is a nice finishing touch and offers a lot of protection. Unless an extremely light coat is used, flat paint won't be quite as flat, but will still be more matte than the next step up to satin.

Yes, it reeks. Badly. It will eventually go away, though.
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Thanks Jay. How long until the smell is totally gone would you say?
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Thanks Jay. How long until the smell is totally gone would you say?
Tough to say. It does seem to take longer on a porous material like wood, especially indoors. The amount of ventilation it gets is a factor. Even the sensitivity of your sense of smell could be a factor.

A little story:

I first used Fusion to paint the hard tonneau cover of my truck. 6 cans of flat black and 4 cans of clear. This was two years ago and it still looks as good as the day I did it. The truck has never been garage kept, so that's two Michigan years of beating summer sun, winter snow, and everything in between. I literally walk on the bed cover, too. That's why I love Fusion and I use it any chance I get. Anyway, my point is that even after a month in the wide-open outdoors, you could still smell the paint from about 15 feet away. This was a grand total of 10 cans though - a lot of paint.

It's probably safe to say that the smell is substantially less now than when you first painted, right? It will continue to fade away until it's gone altogether, it's just a matter of time.

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