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Old 12-11-2011, 07:28 AM   #16
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No one has mentioned this - on trim that old there WILL be layers of paint that contain lead. Please do a little research on safe working methods for dealing with that.

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Old 12-11-2011, 08:30 AM   #17
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No one has mentioned this - on trim that old there WILL be layers of paint that contain lead. Please do a little research on safe working methods for dealing with that.
Ah - yeah, makes sense.

Then test for it (do the tests work right?) - and if it tests possitive just get rid of all of it.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:47 PM   #18
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If you use chemical strippers they will act on all paint and you will be stripping down to the bare wood and all the coats applied over the last 86 years.
And, the problem with that would be........................?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:29 AM   #19
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Who knows how many layers are on there Bud. It will be much more labor intensive, sloppy(especially for a DIY) and theres almost certainly the lead issue like the guys have said. It sounds like hes pressed for time since he's already talked about painting over it and dealing with it later which will compound his problem. I'm not familiar with the infrared thing, I'd be curious to learn more about it
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:51 AM   #20
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So rather than correcting the problem it is better to just keep adding to it?
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:21 AM   #21
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yep you should strip it , with that said buy a qt. of sherwin williams pro classic waterborne alkyd and some oil base zinsser cover stain do some brush outs first prime and paint. then try to just use the paint will it be perfect ? but i think you might be pleased ,and if not your only out for the 2 qt. and about an hour of time
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:47 AM   #22
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So rather than correcting the problem it is better to just keep adding to it?
Add ot it enough and it'll just resolve itself! The first ceiling I painted - the original paint layer soaked up the new paint and peeled off in sheets overnight - Just had to scoop it up off the floor.

I wish scraping a ceiling was that easy like that every time

(OP: this is NOT advise given for you to follow!)
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:50 AM   #23
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damn... i definitely feel your pain OP. when i first discovered my problem and how extensive it was i literally screamed, lol! it's been a 4yr process for me, off and on, dealing with this cheap azz paint. i should have hired a professional crew to come strip it all, re-finish it and send the original homeowners the HUGE bill!!

this kind of exercise by home sellers/ relaters should be illegal. i would consider this idea of freshening up a place with off-white just before you sell it to some poor bastard as permanent damage. you should be able to opt out of a contract based on the work it will take to remove the crap.

GL and remember... your not the only victim of this practice
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:23 PM   #24
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We had same situation 18 years ago when we bought this 1890s house. Strip it down to bare wood via good carbide blade scrapers and/or heat gun. Recoating will just give you another layer to strip down the road. Do it right and use A GOOD primer. ONce you get the hang of the scrapers (they also make some with curved blades.. not carbide, but they work), it will go a lot faster than you'd ever believe. Wear masks.. probably lead paint underneath.. almost certain if built back then. Our previous owner put cheap latex paint over the old oil primer and paint.. flake heaven!
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Old 12-24-2011, 09:25 AM   #25
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I say again, gel strip or rent an infrared thing. Or buy one. I sold mine for almost what I paid for it when I got out of the business.
Yep.

Personally, I hate painted woodwork & trim - especially in older houses where it's worth showing off.

I had to strip & refinish literally all the old oak woodwork in our current house, that was built in 1928. It ended up being easier to dismantle it all, strip sand & refinish it, then re-install it. The only saving grace was that the previous owner didn't use primer, so the paint wasn't bonded very well to the woodwork.

I've yet to sand down our entry door itself, but the trim is done. I much prefer that over anything painted.

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And, the problem with that would be........................?
Exactly.

It'll be a pain in the butt, but I'd say just strip it all down to bare wood, stain & refinish it. Everyone will be happier with the end result.
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Actually, I'm with you. That era home is made for the natural woodwork. Nothing like a 20's bungalow with all that gorgeous grain!

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