Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Painting

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-30-2013, 07:05 AM   #16
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Share |
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave88LX View Post
1. Lucky for us I'm in the middle of packing up for a move and also have some junk basement walls. Plenty to play on.
3. No kidding? That is awesome. If I were going to spray my molding, would painters tape on the floor and some dropcloth be enough? Paint the wall after the molding instead of before?
4. Oh, real painter's paint. I'd need to find out where to buy those locally.
5. Yeah none of those seem to be a FineFinish tip that I can see on the box store sites. What is the difference out of curiosity? I'll check with Sherwin Williams.

Thank you for the information.

Looking up tips. I assume these "Fine Finish" tips can be used on the standard guns that come with the LTS/X series of sprayers?
http://www.graco.com/content/dam/gra...300564EN-I.pdf
No not just tape and drops. What I have is called a hand masker 3000 that if you paint anything you need to look into it has cut my masking time by more than half. But you can do it by hand. If you have carpet take some plastic that you get at say SW or even the box store has it. In fact you can buy it with the tape already on it. Tuck this tape under the base a little unfold the plastic. Then because the plastic is so light sometimes the force of the sprayer will lift it onto your new paint, to stop this buy a roll of 9" paper (in the paint dept.) and a roll of regular masking tape. Simply tape the paper close to the trim on top of the plastic. Sorry I should have said lay your drop cloth out first just close to the base then the plastic should be on top of the drop. It's taking longer to explain than to do it LOL
Yes in this case I would paint the trim first then the walls.
Not sure if the tech. difference in the tips but a regular tip is designed for a large area such as a wall or the side if a house. The FF tips are designed for a small application so you really wouldn't paint a wall with one.
Yes they can be used on any gun but you will need the tip guard for FF. For Graco these are X tips So you will need a X guard. The guard that comes with your gun is orange the x tip is blue.
Dave for your doors I would recommend removing them to paint them. Use the big pieces of cardboard you had to practice spraying and maybe fashion a paint booth in the garage. If you have the room you can use say a paint stir stick or a piece of 1x stand the doors up screw the stick into the top of the door so they stand kind of accordion style then you can do both sides of 5 or 6 doors at a time.

ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 10:57 AM   #17
Member
 
Dave88LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Red Lion, PA (York)
Posts: 581
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


This deal here is what you have? I'll have to check it out.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_237267-98-M3...ductId=3027115

Part of me worries that learning how to use these new things will take longer than by hand.

I also have stair risers to do. I believe there is a alkyd somethingorother paint that is best used for that. I was hoping to have the risers, the stringers, and the molding on the stringers all done the same. Can the same paint all be used for that?

I did find a 410FF tip locally so that is good.

When you do the doors accordian style like that, how do you take care of the tops/bottoms? Or not worry about it? Everything I read says that they need to be painted too.

Thanks again for all the tips.
Dave88LX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 03:12 PM   #18
Member
 
Dave88LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Red Lion, PA (York)
Posts: 581
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Lowe's took it back without a problem. I'm now in possession of a Graco Pro Magnum LTS 17. I have the 410FF tip, but I won't have the guard until tomorrow.

Have a couple gallons of Sherwin-Williams Pro Classic acrylic-alkyd for my trim and doors, some of their Porch & Floor enamel for the stair risers, and Resilience exterior acrylic latex for the back patio door.
Dave88LX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2013, 07:12 AM   #19
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave88LX View Post
This deal here is what you have? I'll have to check it out.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_237267-98-M3...ductId=3027115

Part of me worries that learning how to use these new things will take longer than by hand.

I also have stair risers to do. I believe there is a alkyd somethingorother paint that is best used for that. I was hoping to have the risers, the stringers, and the molding on the stringers all done the same. Can the same paint all be used for that?

I did find a 410FF tip locally so that is good.

When you do the doors accordian style like that, how do you take care of the tops/bottoms? Or not worry about it? Everything I read says that they need to be painted too.

Thanks again for all the tips.
That's the one but if you can get to a SW store you buy it in a kit that has the knife and plastic and a DVD. It will save you a little over buying it all separate.
ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2013, 05:23 PM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Also Dave do not neglect the practice part, what you need to practice is your speed as this is very important to stop runs and sags
ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2013, 05:43 PM   #21
Member
 
Dave88LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Red Lion, PA (York)
Posts: 581
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Picked up that tape gun today at the SW store. It'll probably take me longer to figure out how to use it than it will to mask off my areas. Be good practice I guess.

Definitely will set up a practice area in my basement to get the thing figured out. I'm a bit nervous about the whole operation, never used one before.

Is this something I should paint the walls with too or stick with a roller? I've heard that even if you spray, you still need to roll it afterwards so it may or may not be worth doing the walls.
Dave88LX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2014, 09:02 AM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Since you are moving I assume the place will be empty (no furniture) in that case yes you can use it to paint the walls even the ceiling if you need to. Believe me once you learn how to use that masker you will love it.
For instance to paint a ceiling get a roll of the 9' plastic go around the perimeter then unfold the plastic the walls, windows, and everything is masked. Now you have 1' of plastic to lay your drops over. Get an extension for your tip and just walk from 1 side of the room to the other. Ceiling painted, no ladders or walkboards.
For the walls mask the ceiling with 4' or 6' plastic tape the loose end up. Using 4' plastic mask windows and doorways and anything else you don't want paint on.
For these areas the FF tip is not good so just use a regular tip. The one that came with your machine is probably a 517 That's a little big but it will work. To get a tip size you double the first number, that will give you the size of the fan. In this instance you would have a 10" fan 1' from the wall this is a good size for walls. The next numbers are the size of the orfice in this case .017 this allow the amount of paint thru. On interior this will cause quite a bit of overspray.
One other thing when spraying walls and ceilings be sure to overlap by about 50%.
Hope this helps you. Please let us know how it works for you.
ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2014, 12:18 PM   #23
Member
 
Dave88LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Red Lion, PA (York)
Posts: 581
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


I wish it was empty! Still living in it, but working to get all the crap out of here. Might be easier to paint after the last of the stuff is out of here. But as of now, not empty yet.

Sounds like I'll need to invest in a few drops as well do knock out the ceiling and walls.

With an 8' ceiling, what size extension would I need? New house will have 9' ceilings though (but should be painted). Will have a high ceiling garage to do though.

I checked Graco's site, it says this comes with a 515 tip. I don't know if that is good or bad, but regular tips are only $25.

When spraying walls, do you just spray and you're done? Or is it required to roll it afterwards?
Dave88LX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2014, 12:33 PM   #24
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


As for the extension they come in 2 lengths like 24" and 30" whichever one will let you reach about a foot from the ceiling. The 515 tip should work well.
As far as backrolling you can argue both ways, if the walls are textured then they may need to be backrolled. One reason for bankrolling is when you spray a smooth wall there is no roller stipple so if the wall ever needs repair and you don't spray the repair the stipple will make the repair stand out.
Dave if you go on you tube to Idaho painters he has some excellent videos on spraying and masking.
ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ToolSeeker For This Useful Post:
Dave88LX (01-01-2014)
Old 01-01-2014, 08:16 PM   #25
Member
 
Dave88LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Red Lion, PA (York)
Posts: 581
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


OK great. I have seen his videos, they're pretty good. I'll look at some more of them without the kids asking for something every 20 seconds. My walls are probably 30 years old with layers and layers of paint, so stipple won't be a problem.
Dave88LX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2014, 08:34 PM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ontario canada
Posts: 677
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


my local graco dealer told me that he can't order me the small tip for doing doors and trim. i cant remember the sizes. with the smallest tip i have it still sprays out way to much paint no matter how easy or quick i go and i have to go over it with a brush. i also like to go over my trim with a brush because after i nail on the trim i putty caulk and touch it up with a brush.
princelake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2014, 08:55 PM   #27
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


Prince it isn't just a smaller tip it has to be a FF (fine finish tip) these even take a different tip guard. Sherwin Williams should be able to order any tip you want.
No Dave the stipple will be no problem.
ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2014, 09:14 PM   #28
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ontario canada
Posts: 677
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


My local dulux store is the only place in town that sells graco. There isnt a sherwin williams store here. The one guy at dulux really knows his stuff about them and im kind of clueless when it comes to the little graco sprayer. i bought it 3-4years ago and i used it on a few larger size jobs spraying block walls and what not. Then i got my gun in to order the fine tip or whatever i needed to do spraying to doors and finish work and he told me that he cant order the tips i need and that they are discontinued items and i would need to buy a newer model. so the gun is collecting dust. oh and sorry to hijack the thread.
princelake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 07:13 AM   #29
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,454
Rewards Points: 10
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


I would suggest go online to Graco just to be sure. I just ordered FF for my sprayer and it is well over 10 years old.
ToolSeeker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 05:48 PM   #30
Member
 
iminaquagmire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 370
Rewards Points: 0
Default

I have 11 interior 6-panel doors to paint


A little late to the party but you can use a fine finish tip in the molded oval guards. You have to be careful with these models because the guards are different from model to model and some models have guards that don't allow the tips to be removed. And you can't just switch guards to one that does because they have different threads. On the molded oval guards you just have to rotate the tip in the guard until you see the little plastic tab and carefully shave that plastic bit off with a utility knife. It will pull out and you can then use a RAC X tip. There may be a similar tab on the RAC X fine finish tips (can't remember off the top of my head).

iminaquagmire is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lead Paint Follow-Up RoughDraft Painting 24 06-18-2013 07:31 PM
What to do w/ old doors with 8 layers of paint on them? CoconutPete Remodeling 11 01-29-2010 01:52 PM
Multiple Panel Question theatretch85 Electrical 5 12-12-2009 05:26 AM
Flashing NoExperience Painting 13 09-04-2008 05:56 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.