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Old 12-13-2007, 02:54 PM   #1
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I am thinking about restaining my kitchen cabinets. The wood is in great shape, it's just that my wife would like a darker color. The finish now has a shiny polyurethene finish over the stain. Can anyone give advice on how to strip the old stain and polyurethene finish off to prepare for the new stain job. Is this a huge, messy job? Would it include sanding to prepare the surface too? Also, once the new stain is applied, what kind of protective finish should I apply over the stain that is not shiny like the old finish. My wife says that "model" homes now have a flatter finish to them. What do you all think? Thanks for everyones opinion.

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Old 12-13-2007, 03:06 PM   #2
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Attempting to remove all the old finish will be a MAJOR undertaking. My recomendation would be to lightly sand the surfaces and use a tinted polyurethane. To get an even coat / stain color, you will need to spray it on with an HVLP sprayer.

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Thanks for the advice. What does the tinted polyurethane do? Does it give the shine(assuming not as shiny, depending on the color chosen) over the existing stain or will it change the color? Thanks!
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There are two ways you can go -- refinishing or refacing. Refinishing involves stripping the old finish while refacing involves replacing the doors and drawer fronts along with new veneer over the rest of the cabinet.

Refinishing is major work, but you can send the doors out to be dipped rather than strip them by hand. It's messy, time consuming work. Get a quality wood stripper and follow the instructions. It isn't hard, just messy.

Refacing is also time consuming and requires more skill than refinishing. You'll need to get new doors, drawer fronts, and veneer. There are places on the internet that sell these pre-finished. You'll also need some veneer "tape" for other exposed surfaces.

I'm considering a similar refresh to my kitchen and will probably reface rather than refinish.

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I would hate to replace the doors and other items on the cabinets because the wood is still in good shape. It's just that the color is now "wrong."
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The stain is in the poly. Just pick the shade you want. Oh yeah and high gloss, semi gloss or satin. A complete refinish or reface is unnecessary.
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Keep in mind that using tinted poly over the existing color will not produce the color you thought it would........
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I have restained oak cabinets in our bathroom using the Minwax Polyshades (it is the stain and polyurithane in one). I got a beautiful result using the bombay mahogony color. It looks like new cabinets. I wanted a dark rich color so I put about 6-8 coats. Now I want to do the same in our other bathroom but instead of 8 coats of the stain/polyurethane, I thought I would do the 8 coats of regular stain and then one coat of polyurethane on top at the end. The problem is that the regular stain is not covering the wood like the Polyshade did (I don't want to see the wood through the stain). I am up to 5 coats and the wood still shows through once I wipe the excess stain off with a rag. I tried to leave the stain on without wiping as that is how I applied the polyshade, but the regular stain doesn't dry if I do that (it stays tacky). anyone have advice for how to get a solid looking color from stain?
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You also could lightly sand and then paint and use a dark color or apply a glaze over the paint. I know that's a different look, but I think it would be a little easier. Here are a few links:

(painting cabinets)
http://www.oldhouseweb.com/how-to-advice/painting-kitchen-cabinets.shtml

(staining..talks about gel stain)
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...155211708.html
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Stain and poly are two very different things. Even with the combo products the wood only gets the stain when it is new. All you are doing is building up the poly surface with a suspension of pigment applying poly stain over poly to start. Which is fine if you are getting the look you want.

The only way to think about restaining wood cabinets is to strip back to bare wood where hopefully a darker stain can be absorbed to achieve the look you want. Then you can refinish to whatever sheen and luster you want with polyurethane or varnish in whatever sheen you want.

Look in your phone book for paint prep people, or strippers but not the kinky kind. You would be surprised at how little they cost. I have had mixed results with those who dip because the chemicals can discolor the wood to kind of dull grey to start---fine for painting. I use a person for staircases, kitchens and things that comes out for a few days with a system that gets it all for a fraction of what I would pay for chemicals alone.

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I have restained oak cabinets in our bathroom using the Minwax Polyshades (it is the stain and polyurithane in one). I got a beautiful result using the bombay mahogony color. It looks like new cabinets. I wanted a dark rich color so I put about 6-8 coats. Now I want to do the same in our other bathroom but instead of 8 coats of the stain/polyurethane, I thought I would do the 8 coats of regular stain and then one coat of polyurethane on top at the end. The problem is that the regular stain is not covering the wood like the Polyshade did (I don't want to see the wood through the stain). I am up to 5 coats and the wood still shows through once I wipe the excess stain off with a rag. I tried to leave the stain on without wiping as that is how I applied the polyshade, but the regular stain doesn't dry if I do that (it stays tacky). anyone have advice for how to get a solid looking color from stain?
If you want a solid color you're far better off to simply paint. You cannot apply a stain to a sealed surface.

You could stick with the polyshades (keeping in mind that 8 coats of anything produces so much build that it will crack), or you could take a sample of what you're working on to a paint store (one that tints clearcoats) and get a brush on toner, preferrably one that gives you the correct color in 2 coats. The idea is to mix a small amount of stain in a compatible clearcoat and tone your doors to the color you're after.
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This is a picture that I cut and pasted from another site that gives the stain color that I am talking about when I say a "solid looking stain" . You cannot see the wood grain through the stain. I got this look using the polyshade (2 in one) but needed alot of coats. I had sent the doors out to have them done professionally (stripped and stained) and matched the cabinets. I want to get the same depth of color in a different shade now (a cherry color) for another bathroom. Any ideas?

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To answer you're question,painting might be best,easiest.
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I tend to agree with you. I am not sure about spraying tough. Do you thing I can get the same result with brush or roll painting? It is not that I disagree with you, it is just i am not used to spray, specially inside the house.

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