Boxing; Mixing all the cans of paint together in a big bucket---the mixing machines are not perfect and some times one gallon will have a slightly different color or sheen.
Curious what you guys would do to save time. Here's a description of the job:
whole house, new construction
drywall returns for windows/doors
100% cathedral ceilings upstairs
no cathedral lighting fixtures
3400 SF home
Here's my plan, before flooring is installed, cover the window openings with plastic by taping to the outside of the drywall return. Spray the whole house white primer. Spray all ceilings and walls with white finish. Remove window/door coverings and brush/roll these areas to finish after move-in...
All one color, is this the fastest approach?
I have a 26 gal 5.6CFM compressor with another 26 gal spare tank for a total of 52 gal of compressed air if I wanted to use both tanks. What airgun would work best for latex with this setup?
No air gun is going to work well with latex paint. Some modern HVLP set ups can spray un thinned latex, but even the best, most expensive units are only used for small scale jobs like trim and cabinets. For a whole house full of drywall, airless is the only way to go.
Your plan sounds good. Might want to consider back rolling the final coat on the walls at least if not the ceilings too.
If you wanted to take the time to mask the drywall returns tight to the windows, you wouldn't have to come back and hand paint around them.
If you haven't used an airless before it would help to do some research. There are some pretty good instructional vids on YouTube. Look for ones sponsored or made by Graco. Also B&K painting has a few that could help get you started.
Unless your shooting block filler the airless you rent will be fine. Study tip sizes and don't worry about the primer. And as JMay gave you some good videos don't just watch them study them B&K has several watch them all. Will help you mask too.
Glad it's you and not me who has to paint 12 rooms. Don't blame you for wanting to spray. I always used roller and brush. Do you plan on using many different colors? If you do that might effect using a sprayer because you would have some down time to clean the sprayer everytime you change colors.
sounds a lot like me as well ive been working on a 2500 sq house bye myself with little to no exp not fun at all lol not sure how many walls too many of them and i dont want to go into panic mood which ill do if i count all of them lol. but to answer your questin? i use a roller myself but its been taking a long timee to finish everything.kind of wish i would have tried a sprayer instead now.
Hey, despite popular opinion- this painting thing isn't easy. Takes some skills and practice.
If you don't have that- patience. If you hurry it- it will screw up. Really.
spraying is normally much faster than a brush and a roller if you are doing large enough areas of a single color. i went through 4-6 55gal drums of paint on bridges with one other guy in a 12 hour shift several times. i cant see that happening with a brush. i dont think that 12 rooms/ interior justifies using a sprayer. just the time and money spent masking off the windows alone would be a deciding factor for me. im not a big fan of spraying inside due to the amount of clean up involved also. i have sprayed and back brushed trim and door casing to speed things up a little. quality paint and tools will help speed up progress too. having to add an extra coat because you went cheap on paint will slow things down for sure.
Hire someone who knows what they are doing to do it.
Whenever I can afford it, I hire someone else to do it. Pros can do it WAY faster and produce great results.
How to learn to be a decent painter?
Paint 12 rooms in your house.
I really like painting. I like the prep and I love the joy of finishing. I'm getting steadily better results, and learning how to work faster.
I'm the sort of DIYer who finds sublime joy in approaching a new discipline, gaining competence and finally, skill while I tackle jobs around my home. My first paint jobs aren't nearly as good as my most recent. But, I'm about ready for a change now... and since I know my prep was STERLING, it will be easy to re-coat.
I have a high quality sprayer that my sweet, misguided, husband bought me. I ONLY use it for projects that can be done outside. Works like a champ. Used it once on my house to paint the underside of a porch roof. It took so much time to mask off the windows, doors, floor, etc, that it would have been faster just to roll it.
And the skill required to do a good job of spraying on paint takes time to develop the skill.
In my opinion, a pro with a roller and brush can paint twice as fast as a DIYer with a sprayer...........I'm saying that to point out that spraying is really not the time-saver everyone thinks it is. Prep, masking, color changeovers, clean up, all take major amounts of time when spraying. Yes, there is some of that with rolling, but, in the end I believe the brush and roller do a superior job in the most efficient amount of time.
well seems everyone covered the sprayer vs cut/roll pretty well..but i will add this..
dont let the amount of painting over whelm you.. break it into sections..
ceilings-all the same color
trim - all the same color
walls - varying colors..
do each section until completion, clean up and prep for the next section.. this way you wont hav eto wash out your tools for every color change in every room and
Thanks very much for all your thoughts. Because some rooms are plaster we'll probably need 3 coats and because the other rooms have been painted dark colours we'll need 2, so really we'll be painting the equivalent of about 26 rooms.
If spraying is much harder and doesn't save much time because of the taping that's fine
Just was hoping to save a bit of time as I've had to learn the electrics and joinery so far and that's taken 2 months.
if you want to save some time spray the closets and ceilings.. not much you can screw up there ( unless you have finished floors already in) and minimal prep as you just need to avoid the light fixtures and you can spray on the ceiling/wall joint as your cutting that in w a brush anyway. they are pretty fun to do in my opinion:yes:
One thing that helps move things along is using the bigger roller covers.
The typical size is 9" , there is also 12, 14 and 18" . I like the 14, not too big and heavy, and can get most places. But you need a special frame and bucket to use it.
Wooster makes the whole set up, and I think Purty has it too. Might have to buy online.
if you are gonna go with a the larger roller cover get a quality frame.. i only use a 9 or an 18.. so i can only speak from my experience but there is NOTHING WORSE then messing with a crappy frame like this...
24! Dang, I haven't even see one of those! I bet it was 18...
Jarhead- is the big ben adjustable to different sizes? I actually ( and suscefully) use the one with wing nuts. But I don't ride it every day. Needs to be a big enough space or many rooms, same color to justify bringing the set up. I don't carry the big bucket ( which , BTW, is a rubbermade 14 gal bin with 2 screens wired together for the 14" for me) all the time.
I bought a Big Ben this year----Nice tool. My old 18" frame was magnesium and would leave oxide streaks in the paint .--Poor design,the roller caps rubbed the frame.
It would only be faster with an airless if there is only a sub floor down, then prime everything and paint all of your ceilings with the airless, but you still have to back roll when spraying. In a finished house that's just getting a re-paint I would not think about using an airless I would just brush and roll. An airless is very efficient, but there is a time and place to use one and not to use one.
Curious what you guys would do to save time. Here's a description of the job:
whole house, new construction
drywall returns for windows/doors
100% cathedral ceilings upstairs
no cathedral lighting fixtures
3400 SF home
Here's my plan, before flooring is installed, cover the window openings with plastic by taping to the outside of the drywall return. Spray the whole house white primer. Spray all ceilings and walls with white finish. Remove window/door coverings and brush/roll these areas to finish after move-in...
All one color, is this the fastest approach?
I have a 26 gal 5.6CFM compressor with another 26 gal spare tank for a total of 52 gal of compressed air if I wanted to use both tanks. What airgun would work best for latex with this setup?
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