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klemmy 04-04-2007 01:56 PM

How to paint 2 different colors with a knockdown finish?
 
I sprayed my bathroom with a knockdown or orange peel finish. I painted the ceiling white and I wrapped the ceiling paint onto the walls about an inch. Now I'm painting the walls a brownish color. What is the best way to cut in the top edge along the ceiling without getting paint on the ceiling and without having a crooked line? I tried some tape but I can never keep the paint from going under the tape. I tried a putty knife but the paint went under that too. Is this just better left to a painter and not a diy'er?

joewho 04-04-2007 02:46 PM

Do you have brush skills? You can take the putty knife and use the corner of the knife to "draw" a line in the corner where the ceiling meets the wall. That's a guide for your brush. You just want to leave a black line as a guide, not a gouge.

klemmy 04-04-2007 03:21 PM

No, thats the problem, my brush skills are lacking. I may have to down a few cocktails to steady out my hand and see how straight I can get it.

slickshift 04-04-2007 04:26 PM

Often in a case like this, we can't be perfectly straight, as the walls and ceiling aren't (they are always at least a little out of square anyway, and in this case now they are lumpy too)

Now don't tell anybody this, it's a secret:
We do it by hand and "follow a line" which means make compromises by following the edges and adjusting as we go along, trying to "make it look like it's supposed to look that way"

Quality tools and quality paint will help
Normally I'd recommend a 2.5 inch Purdy or Corona (paint brush) for "cutting in"
This may be a time where a 1 inch brush would be helpful
...and perhaps a few Coronas (not paint brushes)

klemmy 04-04-2007 05:51 PM

ok, the brush didnt work too well for me. Then I tried one of those square edgers with the wheels. That actually worked real well as long as I was real careful not to put too much paint on the pad. A few times I had too much paint on it and now I have colored paint on some of the bumps on the ceiling. Now I'll have to take some white paint to fix up the ceiling. I really hate painting.

slickshift 04-04-2007 06:04 PM

My girls like those things (my diy household girls), but they say you do have to watch not to put to much paint on them
Other than that, they like them

Hamilton 04-04-2007 09:40 PM

My "cutting in" skills are fair, at best. :( Here's what I do when I want a razor line from the lid to the wall.

I put wall color on the wall starting at the ceiling and down about 1" wide, I also put wall color on the ceiling about 1/2" wide off the wall; I let that dry. Then I run 1" tape along the top of the wall right up to the joint, press it in tight. Then I paint the lid (using a dry brush near the tape).

I then pull the tape down and, bingo, a beautiful straight edge.

slickshift 04-04-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 39643)
Then I run 1" tape along the top of the wall right up to the joint, press it in tight....

klemmy's walls are textured and won't "hold" tape-not tight enough to keep paint from seeping under anyway

klemmy 04-04-2007 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slickshift (Post 39651)
klemmy's walls are textured and won't "hold" tape-not tight enough to keep paint from seeping under anyway

Agreed, now its in my wifes hands. She's gonna have at it with a 1/2" brush. She's gonna fix all the little spots I screwed up on. The knockdown looks nice but painting it really sucks.

slickshift 04-04-2007 11:25 PM

I call cutting In K/D "challenging"...

















...in front of customers

klemmy 04-05-2007 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slickshift (Post 39657)
I call cutting In K/D "challenging"...



...in front of customers

Any chance you'll be in Wisconsin soon? If so, I have a nice knockdown paint job for you. :laughing:

slickshift 04-05-2007 10:59 AM

Lol...
Well, I can't post what I call it when the customer is not there

torpainter 04-05-2007 06:11 PM

[Quality tools and quality paint will help
Normally I'd recommend a 2.5 inch Purdy or Corona (paint brush) for "cutting in"
This may be a time where a 1 inch brush would be helpful
...and perhaps a few Coronas (not paint brushes)[/quote]

Purdy brushes have gone downhill since they started supplying home depot and had to cut costs to meet the HD price,Corona are great!Going on 6000 hours with this one brush

sflamedic 04-05-2007 07:43 PM

I just painted a room that i spray knockdown walls and ceilings. I just used a 1.5" purdy paint brush and did it by hand. Looks great nice straight line and no ceiling mistakes. just take your time.

Dusty 04-09-2007 07:47 AM

The trick I've heard works (not sure about the KD ceiling, but can't see why not) is to tape, paint the edge of the tape (next to the wall in this case) with the ceiling paint. This means any paint that is going to seep is the same as the colour under the tape and any openings in the tape are now sealed. Then paint with wall colour and remove the tape. Apparently this is a good way to get a really clean edge when you can't do it by hand.


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