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lmaxson 02-18-2012 01:43 PM

How to fix a peeling bathroom ceiling
 
Hi DIY'ers,

I took wallpaper off of my bathroom ceiling (which is drywall) and I cleaned it thoroughly with a solution of vinegar and water (to remove any wallpaper paste) and let it dry for 2 days. Then I scrubbed with a green scrubby and washed the entire ceiling with a bleach, water and soap solution to remove any signs of mold in the cracks and let it dry for 2 days. Then I once again cleaned it with just dish soap and water and let that dry for 2 days. Then I lightly sanded the entire ceiling and wiped away any sign of sanding dust with soapy water and let that dry thoroughly. I then painted the entire ceiling with Zinsser Bulls Eye Water Based Primer and let it dry for as long as the instructions stated. Last step was a coat of Benjamin Moore Regal Premium Interior 100% Acrylic Paint with a matte finish; I also let that dry according to the instructions on the can. We did not use the shower or tub (as we have a second bathroom) for almost a week. There is a small ventilation fan in the opposite corner of the bathroom (not above the shower). It vents up in the attic above the bathroom. After two weeks, we started to shower and bath in the newly painted bathroom. Within three weeks the ceiling paint started to peel above the shower. It isn't falling off the ceiling, but rather just peeling away. It has now peeled almost 3/4 of the way across the ceiling and I am seeing signs that the one area that has not peeled is starting to. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong or how to fix it so it doesn’t happen again? I can send pictures of the ceiling if that helps.

Thanks to anyone who responds!

chrisn 02-18-2012 04:41 PM

Pics might help. Sounds like you did everything right. Maybe soap residue?

ratherbefishin' 02-18-2012 05:05 PM

Yeah, I agree with chris, definitely soap residue. I see three applications of soap and no mention of rinsing, just letting dry.
There are two things Bullseye 123 won't stick to: soap scum and lard. Since you apparently didn't render a hog on your ceiling, I'll guess it to be soap scum. You need to peel away the rest of the paint, scrape, sand if necessary, then wash the ceiling down with just clear water and let dry. Repeat the process several times, then seal with Zinsser Gardz to be safe.

jsheridan 02-18-2012 05:51 PM

I agree. Both the quantity of soap applications and type are concerning. In the future, use TSP or Dirtex to clean any paintable surfaces, and only if absolutely necessary and rinse well. From what you described, I really don't see any reason that anything other than plain water, with bleach or vinegar, was necessary. I would allow the ceiling to continue to fail for another month or so before repair.

joecaption 02-18-2012 05:55 PM

You said it vents into the attic, It's suppost to be vented to the outside.
If not plan on mold in the attic, on the insulation and on the back side of the sheetrock.
That's just nuts that someone used wall paper on a ceiling. Bet they were trying to hide something by doing that.
Old house? May have been oil based paint on there before is all I can come up with.

Brushjockey 02-18-2012 06:38 PM

BTW Joe- paper on a ceiling is not unusual. I have it in my bath.
But it is a full vinyl - so not affected by humidity.

joecaption 02-18-2012 07:08 PM

45 years in the business and have never once seen wallpaper on a ceiling.
Oh the things I learn on here.

Brushjockey 02-18-2012 09:17 PM

sort of unusual for new construction or anything in the last 20 or so- standard when paints were really bad and plaster was king.
Embossed papers are fairly common.

If you want to be even more informed- google 'wallpapered ceilings" You'll find a ton of stuff.
It is always surprising when we find that our world isn't 'the world'.

chrisn 02-19-2012 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 856885)
45 years in the business and have never once seen wallpaper on a ceiling.
Oh the things I learn on here.


20 years ago papering ceilings was the "in" thing with decorators:yes: It was fun then, not so much any more

jsheridan 02-19-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisn (Post 857120)
20 years ago papering ceilings was the "in" thing with decorators:yes: It was fun then, not so much any more

By fun you mean to look at, right. I don't hang paper, so I can't say what a bear it is to hang a ceiling. But, I am a paper remover, and I've done my share of ceiling removals, not fun. Fortunately, I haven't run across a request to in many years. That eliminates the need to say no.

joecaption 02-19-2012 07:24 AM

Sometimes it makes since to to remove the ceiling you have now and start over or just go over the whole thing with new sheetrock. So you will have a nice flat surface to work with.

Brushjockey 02-19-2012 08:27 AM

You do love to tear walls down- lol..
I almost never recommend that- unless you are doing a full remodel it is such a a waste of time and money when it is not needed.

chrisn 02-19-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsheridan (Post 857149)
By fun you mean to look at, right. I don't hang paper, so I can't say what a bear it is to hang a ceiling. But, I am a paper remover, and I've done my share of ceiling removals, not fun. Fortunately, I haven't run across a request to in many years. That eliminates the need to say no.


Actually (whenI was a younger man) they were fun to hang:yes:

chrisn 02-19-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushjockey (Post 857185)
You do love to tear walls down- lol..
I almost never recommend that- unless you are doing a full remodel it is such a a waste of time and money when it is not needed.


Tear it all down and start over:eek:

It would take maybe an hour to have it paint ready:laughing:

lmaxson 02-20-2012 12:55 PM

I am currently unemployed (and I am a single parent of an adopted child - so no ex husband - support - or family living close by). Therefore, 1) I cannot afford to pay for my ceiling to be torn down and 2) I cannot do it myself as I don't have the time with a job search. The wallpaper that was on the ceiling was white embossed that looked like the old tin ceiling tiles. It had been up since above 1999. I really want to find a way to remove whatever is on the ceiling that is causing the paint to crack. Any other thoughts on how I can clean it, sand it, whatever and then paint it to get it to stay?


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