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Old 06-11-2012, 11:30 AM   #1
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I removed some old blind brackets from some window moldings and in the process some paint came off with it (see linked photos). I need to repair this so I can install new blinds and their brackets. How do I fix this so I can re-paint it and install the new hardware?

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Is that the remains of the plastic mollys?
Take a sharp putty knife and cut them off at the surface. You could try and pull them out, but that will cause more damage.
If you cut them off- lightly tap them below surface with a hammer.
Looks like your top paint isn't bonding well to what is underneath.
Use that putty knife to test how much you can scrape off. if it comes easily, there is a bonding issue ( the next coat after the one that you see wasn't prepped ) . stop.
Also depending on the age of the house- it could either be an oil that was coated with latex, or even an oil with lead in it, that was coated with latex.
In those cases, you might have to just know that there is adhesion issues that could resurface. What to do now..
I would spot prime those with a good bonding primer ( like Zinnser 123)
use a bit of joint compound or spackle ( use the largest putty knife you can fit in there so it spans the whole thing) , hit it twice.
Sand , reprime and paint.

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Oh, those are not molly's - I plugged the old blind brackets' screw holes with pieces of wood in case I have to drill into the same holes for the new blind's brackets (to give it better grip, more bite). Yes, I planned on clipping the ends before starting the repair work.

Since you mentioned there's a possibility of lead (its a 1918 house) I want to take extra caution. Can I seal it before doing the compound, sanding, priming and painting thing? If so, what do I seal it with?
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Anything you seal it with will be sanded off anyway, but to answer you're question, Gardz will work as would any primer that says sealer on it.
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but the material is wood, not drywall. Do I still use Zinsser Gardz Drywall Sealer? Or Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 Water-Base Primer? Followed by compound, sand, re-prime and paint?
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Either is fine, you are not going to sand it off because you would cover it with the mud, and sand that.
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A coating must be a certified lead or asbestos encapsulant. This is only an FYI, not something you need to repair a minor wood blemish. We sell products from Fiberlock Technologies for projects requiring encapsulation:
http://www.fiberlock.com/
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Can I substitute Zinsser Gardz Drywall Sealer or Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 Water-Base Primer with Kilz or Drylok? It's all I have on hand at the moment.
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Mr Paint, I think that is a little over the top for this situation..

Drylock- no. It is for cement.

The whole idea of using a primer before mudding is to get a grip on the paint that is there, also to try and seal down the edges of the top paint.
Any quality acrylic primer sealer will do.
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but the material is wood, not drywall. Do I still use Zinsser Gardz Drywall Sealer? Or Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 Water-Base Primer? Followed by compound, sand, re-prime and paint?

didn't know that

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"This is only an FYI, not something you need to repair a minor wood blemish..."

I thought everybody would understand this statement...
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Thanks everyone!
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Oh, those are not molly's - I plugged the old blind brackets' screw holes with pieces of wood in case I have to drill into the same holes for the new blind's brackets (to give it better grip, more bite). Yes, I planned on clipping the ends before starting the repair work.

Since you mentioned there's a possibility of lead (its a 1918 house) I want to take extra caution. Can I seal it before doing the compound, sanding, priming and painting thing? If so, what do I seal it with?
Golf tees may work better than loose shards of wood fibers. Wood filler/wood putty might even do the job well enough, or another option is to just use bigger screws when you rehang the hardware.
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Golf tees! Good Idea! But I wish I played..

I have also used wooden matches ( not the red part though...)

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