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Old 04-21-2010, 12:52 PM   #16
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I believe Harmony is zero VOC until you put colorant into the can. Could be wrong though.......Natura is the only product that I know of that starts zero VOC and ends zero VOC in any color. Competitors can not say or do the same..........Natura comes in Flat, Eggshell, and Semi-Gloss.
I'm liking Natura more and more as I read here (and elsewhere). But curious - in the shop here (local building supply) where I found BM products, I thought they also had some other brand(s) - my crappy memory might be wrong but if that's the case, would they have a separate mixer and tints for each brand? sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I, in all my paranoia, know they're not adding tints with VOC's to a non-VOC can of Natura?
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:48 PM   #17
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Just as another option as far high reflectivity, stop in SW and in their low and zero voc paints, there is a paint base called luminous white or has been renamed high reflective white, this is a very bright clean white, they have a seperate color chart for these colors that are a cleaner and brighter set of colors, you can use the white by itself but doesnt cover as well as the regular dirty whites.
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:42 PM   #18
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Guess I should update this thread, since I'm done painting now.

In the end, I took a chip of paint from a relatively low-use room and asked a Benjamin Moore dealer to match it. Their match came out a little lighter than the original, but this might be because the super-cheap original had discolored and gathered dirt over the years.

I wanted to color-match because, in the end, it was the easiest option. That way, I could get away with not painting every inch behind the stacked washer/dryer, for example.

The BM Natura is a superb paint. One coat was sufficient everywhere (though I did prime over certain spots that were new drywall, etc.). It had pretty good coverage, but it was a little difficult to spread. Low-VOC paint in general, and Natura especially, dries extremely quickly. This made the traditional rolling technique (get a bunch of paint up there, then even it out) impossible, because it would dry shortly after I put it on the wall. After some practice, I figured it out, but it was a bit of a pain.

I has one can of Sherwin-Williams Harmony which I used in a couple of bathrooms (as the color was slightly different). It had noticeably better spreadability. However, the coverage was horrible. I think the full can got about 300 square feet, compared to the 400 ft average.

Overall, I found the BM Natura to be superb. After I was done, everything looked fantastic. And though there was a hint of a lingering paint smell (I have a super-sensitive smell), it was nothing compared to conventional paint.
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:32 PM   #19
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I did prime over certain spots that were new drywall, etc.
Toe - thanks for the info on Natura - what did you use for the primer - Does Natura line include a primer / sealer?
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:16 PM   #20
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Toe - thanks for the info on Natura - what did you use for the primer - Does Natura line include a primer / sealer?
There is a Natura primer, but I already had Sherwin-Williams Harmony Primer from a previous job. It worked fine. However, despite being zero-VOC, it had a very strong paint odor.

I should also note that my notes above were about the flat latex I used on walls.

I also painted much of my trim. For that, I had a gallon of S-W Harmony semi-gloss which made it through much of the job. It was very thick and gooey: not at all as spreadable as the S-W flat. I finished off the job with a quart of the BM Natura semi-gloss, and it was much more spreadable. It went on a little thin, but overall was just much easier to work with than the SW. (Though I admit that my SW was like a year old.)

My conclusion: given a new job, I would stick with the Natura. It is expensive (as is the Harmony), but clearly a very high-quality paint. And walking around the fresh-painted house, my super-sensitive nose could only pick up a little paint smell. There is an even more expensive BM paint, Aura, which is only low-VOC but claims to have even less odor. But the zero-VOC living environment is a plus in my book.
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:36 PM   #21
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thanks again Toe

Just for kicks, I spent a few minutes (more searching) today and found quite a few (some very recent) negative reviews on this paint (e.g. very bad smells for weeks / months, etc). Some people even claiming they couldn't use the rooms until repainting with something else.

Could it be that much of a crapshoot? BM seems like a solid company - there must be some quality control - maybe some old paint was sold/used - does it have a shelf life? From some of the descriptions I'd have to guess there's something else going on - how could it be that bad in some cases...?

Just seems weird - people either really love it, or (a few anyway) really really hate it.

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