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jesse423 06-06-2010 06:56 PM

Help STAINING a new WOOD FENCE
 
Hi,
I'm Jesse and new to this site. I have read some posts regarding wood fences and products and am still confused on the the best product to use.
I just had a 6 foot Cypress fence installed..almost 200 feet. I do like the look of a stain. Do I use oil or water-based? Best product? It is new, do I need to do any extensive cleaning before applying a stain?
Also, some folks have mentioned just letting it go gray. Would it not deteriorate sooner if I don't apply some type of stain/transparent coating?
I know it lots of questions. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can provide.
Jesse423

housepaintingny 06-06-2010 07:45 PM

You should not let your fence naturally grey, once it grays you will have a lot more prep work on your hands to maintain it and the wood fibers also deteriorate, as far as stains go, a clear or toner will show the natural wood the most, but will not last the longest, a stain with more pigment(colo) in it will last longer than one with out, I would go with a semi-solid stain which will accent the wood grain. I would use an acrylic stain, because an acrylic stain is more mildew resistant, more fade resistant, and more durable than any oil stain, Cabots acrylic semi-solid is good. if you wanted to give the fence a painted look then I would use Cabot ProVt. You should still give the fence a cleaning with a pressure washer and a fence/deck cleaner.

jesse423 06-07-2010 07:00 PM

Thank you housepaintingny. I appreciate your suggestions. I was leaning toward the semi solid. I had thought the oil based would be more durable, but it sounds like you like the acrylic..so I will consider going that route.
Do I need to add anything after the stain..like a sealer or is the stain adequate?
Thanks, Jesse

housepaintingny 06-07-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse423 (Post 452629)
Thank you housepaintingny. I appreciate your suggestions. I was leaning toward the semi solid. I had thought the oil based would be more durable, but it sounds like you like the acrylic..so I will consider going that route.
Do I need to add anything after the stain..like a sealer or is the stain adequate?
Thanks, Jesse

Oil base becomes brittle and does not have the flexibility of an acrylic binder, it also does not retain color as well, and is a breeding ground for mold and mildew. After you stain your all set

jesse423 06-07-2010 07:20 PM

Thanks, you have been very helpful. A friend was really impressed with a product called
Sikkens. Any thoughts on that product?

Matthewt1970 06-07-2010 11:52 PM

I usually agree with housepaintingny but not here. Oil will give you superior penetration where as latex wil just peel off and fail in too short a time. Latex stain will fade just like as fast as an oil. I will be doing my girlfriends fence and deck this summer that was stained with latex and the better part of it is all peeling after it was just stained less than 2 years ago.

chrisn 06-08-2010 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthewt1970 (Post 452747)
I usually agree with housepaintingny but not here. Oil will give you superior penetration where as latex wil just peel off and fail in too short a time. Latex stain will fade just like as fast as an oil. I will be doing my girlfriends fence and deck this summer that was stained with latex and the better part of it is all peeling after it was just stained less than 2 years ago.


I agree:whistling2:

housepaintingny 06-08-2010 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthewt1970 (Post 452747)
I usually agree with housepaintingny but not here. Oil will give you superior penetration where as latex wil just peel off and fail in too short a time. Latex stain will fade just like as fast as an oil. I will be doing my girlfriends fence and deck this summer that was stained with latex and the better part of it is all peeling after it was just stained less than 2 years ago.

I'm talking about using a semi-solid waterbase stain with acrylic binders on the fence.

noboru wataya 06-08-2010 12:55 PM

the best bet would DEFNITELY be an oil-based semi-transparent or semi-solid stain. Semi-transparent latex stains are not going to last as long in UV rays.

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housepaintingny 06-08-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noboru wataya (Post 452949)
the best bet would DEFNITELY be an oil-based semi-transparent or semi-solid stain. Semi-transparent latex stains are not going to last as long in UV rays.

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...51114175lg.jpg

Acrylic binders will hold up to UV rays much better than oil, a transparent or semi transparent will not hold up to UV rays as well as a semi-solid or solid stain will, they don't have as much pigment in them, technology with stains has come a long ways, if it was a deck I would definately use oil, because it would be walked on, an Acrylic stain on a fence or house siding will last quite a few years.


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