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Old 07-18-2007, 09:40 PM   #1
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Hi there guys -- need some advice ASAP. I am in the middle of a remodel and have a serious paint issue. My paint contractor removed the popcorn ceiling and applied orange peel texture yesterday. Today he shot flat white and no matter how much paint he applied you can still see the tape stripes through the paint. They actually show up whiter than the surrounding drywall. The house was built in 1970 and it appears to be the original drywall it that matters.

What happened???? He is letting the paint dry overnite to see if it looks better, but I am not optomistic.

He said that he will shoot some super dooper paint if it does not improve tomorrow.

Any advice/comments greatly appreciated!!!!

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Hmmm. Is it the taping joints that are showing up because they needed another coat of mud prior to texture, or is it only a color issue?

If it is only a color issue, did he use a good primer before painting? Or did he just throw some paint on the texture? We always figure a prime and 2 topcoats of paint to cover properly when you have the dark grey of the sheet rock that can show through. Sometimes, if the paint did not have time to set up properly before another heavy coat, it reactivates the paint film, so there is no "net gain" from the second coat.

Usually after it dries overnight, paint is locked in and next coat covers. Paint quality may be an issue as well- not sure what brand you are using. Cheaper paint-cheaper coverage...

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It apperars to be a color issue only. He is using Sherwin Williams Promar 400 --- Extra White. I don't think he primered it before he shot the white. Wherever there is a tape joint, it is extra white like the paint is not covering on the non joint areas. It looks a little better today, but is still unacceptable. The old drywall looked really dry when the popcorn was removed --- darker than grey. They wet the ceiling to scrape the popcorn off and textured the next day --- could that be an issue if the the old drywall was not completely dry?

What is the right way to fix it at this point? Is the paint he used a decent product?? From reading this forum, SW is a well respected brand but where does Promar 400 stact up in their line??

Thanks for all your help!!
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It apperars to be a color issue only. He is using Sherwin Williams Promar 400 --- Extra White. I don't think he primered it before he shot the white. Wherever there is a tape joint, it is extra white like the paint is not covering on the non joint areas. It looks a little better today, but is still unacceptable. The old drywall looked really dry when the popcorn was removed --- darker than grey. They wet the ceiling to scrape the popcorn off and textured the next day --- could that be an issue if the the old drywall was not completely dry?

What is the right way to fix it at this point? Is the paint he used a decent product?? From reading this forum, SW is a well respected brand but where does Promar 400 stact up in their line??

Thanks for all your help!!
Good news it is only a color issue. That's easy.
Depending on how wet they got the ceiling, yes it could've been an issue because it would slow down dry time of paint. Those old ceilings are like sponges and can absorb a lot of moisture.

Two biggest problems here were lack of primer and Promar 400. Yes, SW is the best paint (it's all I use on exteriors), however, like all paint companies, they sell various grades of paint from the cheapest contractor grade to most expensive premium grade.

Promar 400 is the cheapest contractor grade. If I were you, I'd have your painter get at least the Classic 99 interior or Super Paint. They have much better hiding capability and may enable this job to be done with just one more coat.

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Thanks for the info ---- what's the approximate $$ difference per gallon between the Promar 400 and the Super???
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