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Old 11-20-2012, 05:27 PM   #16
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It is to my understanding that when it comes to ceiling paint, yall use just regular flat paint rather than a titled "ceiling" paint? I noticed yesterday that Ace had a water borne ceiling paint from benjamin moore, thoughts?

I do understand the pay more now, pay less later theory. I would love to support my local Ace, which I do alot of, but I dont see that they carry any benjamin moore in larger than 1 gallon cans. I do have a benjamin moore store and a sw store close by, which would you choose? I would prefer to spend less, but which is best bang for the buck?

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BM waterborne ceiling paint is great , SW brilliance( now called something else) forget it
Do you have a Pittsburgh paint dealer near you?

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BM waterborne ceiling paint is great , SW brilliance( now called something else) forget it
Do you have a Pittsburgh paint dealer near you?
I'm not sure what you meant to say about the sw brilliance??? No, I don't have a Pitt dealer nearby.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:00 AM   #18
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I'm not sure what you meant to say about the sw brilliance??? No, I don't have a Pitt dealer nearby.

it sucks I think they changed it to emenence or something stupid like that
it still sucks

classic 99 flat white works well
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it sucks I think they changed it to emenence or something stupid like that
it still sucks

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Gee Crisn say what you really mean. I guess that's why they make Ford and Chevy. I really like the SW ceiling paint. Goes on easy, good hide , goes on white stays white not that grey cast that a lot of them has when they dry.
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Gee Crisn say what you really mean. I guess that's why they make Ford and Chevy. I really like the SW ceiling paint. Goes on easy, good hide , goes on white stays white not that grey cast that a lot of them has when they dry.

in my experience, yes, after 3 coats, I don't have patience for 3 coats on a ceiling, it still sucks
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:38 PM   #21
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Chris, as I have said before, I could not agree with you more about Brilliance. For a long time I thought it was me but time after time I kept having terrible results with Brilliance. The price was good, the results were not. I switched to PPG's ceiling paint at your suggestion and have loved how it performs. It's similar to the old Classic 99 ceiling paint.
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What you are experiencing is "mud cracking." As ChrisN said, it's because of too thick a coat which, leads to uneven drying. Also, The C&K paint you bought was most likely from Tru-Value. Tru-Value does not manufacture paint. It is private-labeled by the lowest bidder. This brings me to another point: Mud Cracking is more likely in paints that have less resin and more filler pigments.

As you gain experience, you will come to appreciate finer quality paints from reputable manufacturers. Perhaps this is you first lesson...
C+K is actually an Ace product, although it is not made by Ace. True value has a couple of different lines, all made in a True Value owned paint factory. Both True Value and Ace corporate have a deal with Ben Moore so many of those stores (which are individually owned) carry Ben Moore.

Hope that helps clear up a little confusion.
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I stopped at my local sw, and they tried to sell me the imminence/brilliance. I declined, and they recommended superpaint. I only bought 2 gallons to make sure i like it/agree with yall on sw. What are yall paying for a gallon of superpaint?
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DC: I work for a large, Western paint company and worked 30 years as a field rep, managing over 600 commercial accounts, the majority of them painters. Major manufactures have several different pricing schedules below retail, these being offered, predicated on quantity purchased.

It is a little unfair to ask a painter what they pay. All of the painters that help answer questions (Un-paid I might add) are all over the country and have different size crews. Their location may have added freight rates and taxes. (Not as high as mine, though)

If you bought S-W Super Paint during their 40%-off sale, you bought a high-quality product at a helluva deal.
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DC: I work for a large, Western paint company and worked 30 years as a field rep, managing over 600 commercial accounts, the majority of them painters. Major manufactures have several different pricing schedules below retail, these being offered, predicated on quantity purchased.

It is a little unfair to ask a painter what they pay. All of the painters that help answer questions (Un-paid I might add) are all over the country and have different size crews. Their location may have added freight rates and taxes. (Not as high as mine, though)

If you bought S-W Super Paint during their 40%-off sale, you bought a high-quality product at a helluva deal.
I spent many years in the retail/labor market. Im not trying to cut someones price. I understand volume plays a large role in price. It was just a question. Im sure i will get flamed for this, and its no harm intended. There are several folks here, pros or not, that act as if they are in a niche market and have super secret info. Not just with me, i have seen this on many other threads. If you want to help, then throw your opinion/answer out there. But don't leave a useless comment, such as "there are so many mistakes in here". Wth is the point of that? You come over to one of the boards i frequent about auto industry/racing, you may get a smart answer, but you will also get advice within it.
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I stopped at my local sw, and they tried to sell me the imminence/brilliance. I declined, and they recommended superpaint. I only bought 2 gallons to make sure i like it/agree with yall on sw. What are yall paying for a gallon of superpaint?

Super paint is good. I used to use Classic 99 for ceilings( it was great), don't know if they still have it or re-named it.
I seldom look at prices but would guess around $32 for sp

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