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thejdoe 04-18-2012 11:16 AM

HELP - How to paint directly on drywall ceiling without cracking paint
 
I need help. I've recently taken up the project to paint all my ceilings, after removing all the popcorn texture. I read several websites instructing me to slightly dampen the popcorn with water (i used one of those pump sprayers that you might put pesticide in and spray around your yard).

I let the ceiling dry about 24 hours after scraping popcorn, and then I started painting directly on the drywall ceiling (no texture). Now the paint is cracking and peeling in a few small areas (some not so small), not everywhere. Where did I go wrong, anyone have advice? I'm guessing I might should have primed first??

Anyone have any ideas how to fix my problem now that I have a layer of paint up there? I tried sanding off the cracked/peeling areas and just repainting it, and that worked in some of the areas, but not all. The cracks/peels returned.

I now plan on getting all purpose joint compound and putting it on the problem areas, letting it dry, sanding that down, and painting over it. Do I need to prime over that compound??

Anyone have help or advice on this? We wanted the ceilings to be "flat" and we did not want to add any other texture (knockdown or orange peel) to the ceiling. Thanks guys.

joecaption 04-18-2012 11:23 AM

Should have primed it first with a sealing primer.

Brushjockey 04-18-2012 11:30 AM

my guess is that you didn't scrape it down to bare rock, there was some of the texture mud still there. it is not a very strong mud, powders easily.
A prime coat with a penetrating primer would have helped, probably stopped the problem.
if you want a sure fire remedy, prime the whole thing with gardz ( very thin clear primer) or Smart Prime , or Zinsser 123. then do your touch up, sand and spot that, 2 coats of a quality ceiling paint.

thejdoe 04-18-2012 11:34 AM

Brush, you think joint compound is not necessary if I prime now?

joecaption 04-18-2012 11:38 AM

Only reason you would need drywall compound is if there's flaws in the surface. Primer and paint will not fix flaws.
Anytime compound is applyed it always has to be primed or the area will come out looking differant.

thejdoe 04-18-2012 11:48 AM

Well I now have "holes" in my paint job that are creating surface flaws, but you're saying that doesn't qualify as needing compound, correct? Just prime and paint?

chrisn 04-18-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thejdoe (Post 901683)
Well I now have "holes" in my paint job that are creating surface flaws, but you're saying that doesn't qualify as needing compound, correct? Just prime and paint?


No, you need to skim over the bad parts, sand,clean,prime and paint

stoner529 04-18-2012 07:55 PM

cracks can be caused from joint tape falling down after the removal because you got it wet. this happens during popcorn removals. you should seriously hire a professional to take care of this unless its not in your budget or you don't care if it doesnt look perfect. As ive said a hundred times. a DIY should never mess with drywall.....

DangerMouse 04-21-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stoner529 (Post 901989)
. a DIY should never mess with drywall.....

Now that's just not true. I did ALL of my drywall work in this home, never did it before, and it's beautiful. Walls are fine, ceilings are fine, etc. In case you have not noticed, this is a DO IT YOURSELF website. If you have nothing to contribute other than self-promoting comments like "call a pro", please refrain from posting here or your account will be removed.

DM


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