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Old 10-06-2010, 09:18 PM   #1
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Gallon of lead paint ?


I found some old paint in the basement
Red can, M&M Paint...Mainline ?
I'm wondering if it is old lead paint
It is oil based
I wrote all the info down on "ingredients"
Can't find my glasses to read what I wrote
On the label:
Pure Titanium Dioxide - 33%
Zinc oxide - 1%
Titanium Calcium ?? 8.6%

easy flow

I'm going to have to open it & take a look

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I am not an expert, but i believe titanium dioxide was the replacement for lead in some paints.

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I found some old paint in the basement
Red can, M&M Paint...Mainline ?
I'm wondering if it is old lead paint
It is oil based
I wrote all the info down on "ingredients"
Can't find my glasses to read what I wrote
On the label:
Pure Titanium Dioxide - 33%
Zinc oxide - 1%
Titanium Calcium ?? 8.6%

easy flow

I'm going to have to open it & take a look

Windows gets the kewpie doll. Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide were the substitutes for lead. The paint may be old but the ban went into effect in the mid 70's I believe. That's about 40 yrs
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I am not an expert, but i believe titanium dioxide was the replacement for lead in some paints.
Check any sunblock you have laying around. It might have some TiO2 in it.

It is a pigment to make things white. It also is used as a sunscreen. Probably the purpose in the paint since there is such a high percentage of the product being TiO2.

zinc oxide is also used in products that intentionally contact the skin.

titanium calcium- also used on products intended for direct contract with human tissue.

I do not know what the lead was used for in the paint, If it acted as as suncscreen, they it very well could be the replacement for lead.
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I am not an expert, but i believe titanium dioxide was the replacement for lead in some paints.
Believe you're correct on that. Zinc oxide and the other titanium compound are white pigments as well. If the paint has lead in it, it would be listed as a lead compound, most commonly lead carbonate (white lead). Yellow and red lead pigments were used, too, but I don't remember the names for those.

Oh, and just a bit of late night trivia, the second largest producer of Ti02 in the world is the Dupont Delisle plant a few miles west of me on the Bay of St Louis.

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Thanks everyone
The house if from the 50's
I knew the lead ban went into effect in '78
The can looks very old....but basement is damp with a high water table here
I didn't want to open it if there was any chance it had lead in it
I'd bet the pigment etc is a solid at the bottom
Too bad they don't plainly date paint
I'd be interested in knowing how old it actually is
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You can use a lead test kit to be sure but first things first. Shake the can upside down and see if you can hear the air reaching the top. If you think it's good, then open it and see if you can get a stick to poke down to the bottom. The ingredients will often settle and harden up in paint after a while.

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