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Old 06-05-2012, 03:57 PM   #16
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I agree on pre-treating before priming. I have used and sold Bio-Zapp Odor Eliminator. It works fantastic!:

http://www.biozapp.com/

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Mr Paint- dead link- and it's hard to get it direct from Bio-Zapp. But Just used some today ( I put it in Gardz to kill it's heavy odor) - sold by this company relabeled as Kabosh. Look around to get the right kind for your use. I do not recommend the "Paint Sentsations" line- they are just an odor masker, and kind of bad themselves...

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[quote=ratherbefishin';937010]aandre, I understand your anxiety, but posting repeatedly in multiple threads won't get better answers. Please stick with one. No offense intended.
Sorry. First time to use a blog. Thanks. Will try the fan.
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aandre, I understand your anxiety, but posting repeatedly in multiple threads won't get better answers. Please stick with one. No offense intended.
First, put a fan on your floor at least overnight and let's make sure it's urine you're smelling and not residual fumes from the denatured alcohol. Denatured alcohol, the solvent in which the shellac is dissolved, is simply ethanol mixed with a little methanol and a strong odorant to discourage winos and frat boys from drinking it. You might also want to find an extra nose or two in the morning to help identify what you're actually smelling.

If, in fact, it still smells of urine tomorrow, my guess is that the OSB (oriented strand board) was still wet when you applied the shellac. Urine gives off ammonia as the urea decomposes, and ammonia dissolves shellac. Given the number of coats you've used, though, I doubt this is the case.

SealCoat is not designed for this, it's a sanding sealer for woodwork finishing. BIN is the right product. You've only added a little clear shellac over the pigmented.

Be patient, try the fan, and let's take it from there.
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Okay, left fan on floor for two days solid. Kept away from it to refreshen nose. Definitely smells better today, but odor not completely gone. Does this mean it was the denatured alcohol? If so, is it safe to go ahead and lay down the new flooring? Or should I put another layer of BIN down? Someone suggested it sometimes takes 6 BIN layers to block such smells, but most on this site seem to think one or two should do it. Suggested next step?
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If it takes 6 coats of BIN to block odors I will be out of business!
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Re: Four coats (2 Kilz Original AND 2 Zinsser BIN)


The reason the smell is still there may be that the urine soaked into the drywall. I had a small section of drywall removed and was amazed how it soaked several inches up the drywall. Buy a moisture meter to see if moisture is detected.
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Re: Four coats (2 Kilz Original AND 2 Zinsser BIN)


I'm in the same boat. So much dog urine on the plywood floor that we couldn't tell where one pee spot ended and the other began. Last July we applied several coats of Kilz Original (oil base) to the plywood, pulled the tack strip and painted as deeply as possible including a few inches up the painted sheet rock walls. New pad and carpet went down in August. Also used non-oil based primer and then laytex paint on the walls. The odors are still heavy but not sure what I'm smelling. It is heavily reminiscent of the Kilz odor, and something else chemical. The smell is greatest in the early morning...don't get why that would be but it's so. The house is not that old, (2000). The crawlspace is lined with plastic, no evidence of rodents, which I've heard can cause odor. Wondering if there is some reaction happening between the Kilz and the carpet padding? It's been 6 months! Embarrassed of the smell when guests come. Do I need to pull up the carpet and pad? Would it be obvious if there was some reaction happening?

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