Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Painting

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-03-2013, 04:08 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1
Share |
Default

Exterior Prep Work


Good Afternoon Everyone,

I am trying to prep my exterior stucco and trim. I just spent a good 10 hours on the garage face and have not even caulked yet...just scraping and sanding. I know prep is important and decided to start early so as not to be rushed. I would like to paint in March or April, but at this rate, it might be 2014....LOL. I've painted before, but never anything in what I would consider, bad shape....I don't think it's been painted in 15 years and it was a sloppy job.

I have a few questions, I am hoping someone can help me with...

My fascia is 2 x 10 rough cut lumber. The protective coating has obviously failed and the paint is chalking and coming off (not flaking or peeling). I have been trying to scrape then sand but it seems like this is not the greatest because of all the hills and valleys in the wood. The garage fascia is almost smooth now from sanding the heck out of it. There is still a lot of paint on it, but it appear to be adhering pretty well.

1) Would it be okay to use a good scrub brush and some liquid TSP and just scrub all the "dead chalky" paint off rather than try to sand it down?

2) In the areas where I didn't get down to the bare wood is it going to show through? I've tried to get it smooth. I am using 60 grit paper.

I plan on using Valspar Duramax for the trim and the stucco.

3) I have noticed some hairline cracks that would be next to impossible to fill with patch or even caulk. The paint (Duramax) is supposed to fill these...is that realistic?

Thanks for your help. I don't want to rush the project and do a slop job, but I think I am overkilling. Obviously I need to get rid of flaking paint, but those areas are few and far between. The chalky power is pretty consistent on the trim. Fortunately, the stucco is in really good shape and not chalky, so I think it just needs a good power washing.

Enjoy the game!

Mike

Damagio25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 07:28 PM   #2
Member
 
Gymschu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Eastern Ohio (heart of Appalachia)
Posts: 2,741
Default

Exterior Prep Work


You definitely want to remove any chalkiness before painting. You can use warm water, a little TSP, and a scrub brush, or, better yet, a gentle pressure wash will make that job go a lot quicker. Let it dry and see what you have. If it's really rough, you can do some sanding and after the sanding rinse off the dust and let dry. Then you are ready for primer if no scraping is necessary. Paint rarely fills even hairline cracks. I would use a putty knife to get all the loose stuff off around and in the cracks, expanding the crack ever so much so you can caulk. Of course, if it's a bigger crack then you will have to repair with mesh and stucco mix. Anyway, you are on the right track.

Gymschu is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 10:26 PM   #3
Member
 
cdaniels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: eastern NC
Posts: 377
Default

Exterior Prep Work


I would wash it with soapy water and a brush....gotta get that loose chalk off..If you add tsp make sure it's rinsed really well....caulk the cracks even if you have to rub it in before painting.If the paint fills the cracks (which it doesn't do well) they will come back really fast.I think the Duramax will work well....no real reason to prime.Most use an elastomeric on stucco.
__________________
Charlie Daniels painting and repair

Last edited by cdaniels; 02-04-2013 at 09:10 AM.
cdaniels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 04:28 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cape May, NJ
Posts: 2,392
Default

Exterior Prep Work


It's tough to get 100% of the chalkiness off. I'm assuming from what cdaniel said that Duramax is paint and primer in one, which I know nothing about. You might want to consider whether it bonds to chalky surfaces. There are primers that do, and the one I go to for weathered exterior wood is BM oil based penetrating primer, 024 I believe. Short of that you can buy Emulsa-Bond additive that helps finishes bond to chalky surfaces.
jsheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 09:25 AM   #5
Member
 
cdaniels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: eastern NC
Posts: 377
Default

Exterior Prep Work


The Duramax is a paint+primer but that is a marketing gimmick. I have used it on chalky surfaces after cleaning and it bonded very well without priming.I guess it depends on how well you clean whether or not you need a primer but I am meticulous in cleaning before painting.I just drove down the street to look at a house I did with Duramax about 8 years ago. Still has a nice satin sheen and no adhesion issues that I could find.Overall it's a great product.
__________________
Charlie Daniels painting and repair

Last edited by cdaniels; 02-04-2013 at 09:37 AM.
cdaniels is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to cdaniels For This Useful Post:
Gymschu (02-04-2013)
Old 02-04-2013, 06:01 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,342
Default

Exterior Prep Work


I would look for an elastomeric caulk for the hairline cracks.
ToolSeeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2013, 08:38 AM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 12
Default

Exterior Prep Work


Masonary Conditioner is the key to painting stucco it goes on clear with a tank sprayer and will save you all of the frustration of the Stucco being splotchy from the paint not soaking in evenly, I am speaking from experience !!!
b679995 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2013, 05:04 PM   #8
paper hanger and painter
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 6,688
Default

Exterior Prep Work


Quote:
Originally Posted by b679995 View Post
Masonary Conditioner is the key to painting stucco it goes on clear with a tank sprayer and will save you all of the frustration of the Stucco being splotchy from the paint not soaking in evenly, I am speaking from experience !!!
really?
chrisn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2013, 05:54 PM   #9
Member
 
Grants Painting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 68
Default

Exterior Prep Work


2 in 1. SUCH A SCAM

Dont use it. Use an acrylic paint like Acri-Shield from PPG or something similar. Clean first with TSP and not the TSP-PH. I mix it strong but it will irritate your eyes and dry out your hands. Like power washing doesn't already do that!...




Last edited by Gary in WA; 02-09-2013 at 05:14 PM. Reason: removed web link per forum rules.
Grants Painting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2013, 06:43 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: outside ocala fl
Posts: 3,342
Default

Exterior Prep Work


I like Loxon from SW. Can you believe 3M has jumped in I saw it yesterday spackle and primer in one.

ToolSeeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pulling permits -- getting caught on previous UN-permitted work and effect on taxes jpfulton248 General DIY Discussions 11 01-22-2013 03:58 PM
Contractor didn't start work in CT - What recourse do I have? ControlTech Off Topic 3 09-28-2010 01:45 AM
grounding the workpiece you're welding jarnold Electrical 41 09-08-2010 07:33 AM
HVAC contractor ripoff! sekntonone HVAC 8 04-05-2008 07:15 AM
Am I being overcharged for general construction work? baloney12 Building & Construction 2 07-11-2007 06:09 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.