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05-11-2010, 11:39 PM
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exterior painting
painting aluminum fascia . i want to paint my house its a cream color with white aluminum fascia and soffits . i want to go brown is there a method to paint the aluminum that works or will it peel off no matter what. any suggestions ?
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05-12-2010, 07:43 AM
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Painting Company, NY
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Clean the aluminum well, use liquid tsp or similar product, rinse well,
Lightly sand it, to degloss the surface, you can use a medium sanding sponge, apply a quality bonding primer, such as DTM bonding primer, because you are going to a lighter color I would prime all of the aluminum, normally you would only have to prime any bare aluminum, after you prime then apply two top coats of a quality acrylic, you don't want to use oil base, oil base does not have the elasticity to expand and contract, so use a acrylic latex
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05-12-2010, 08:01 AM
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Why do you think that METAL needs to have a paint that is flexible? I guess you need to inform the stupid car manufacturers.
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05-12-2010, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Mariani
Why do you think that METAL needs to have a paint that is flexible? I guess you need to inform the stupid car manufacturers.
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Its a fact that aluminum expans and contracts, its a fact that latex, has more elasticity than oil base, we paint aluminum and aluminum sided houses every year with great success and a written warranty. We are up on the latest technology, as we constantly meet with service representatives and district managers ect. To learn about the latest advances in the coatings industry.
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05-12-2010, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by housepaintingny
Clean the aluminum well, use liquid tsp or similar product, rinse well,
Lightly sand it, to degloss the surface, you can use a medium sanding sponge, apply a quality bonding primer, such as DTM bonding primer, because you are going to a lighter color I would prime all of the aluminum, normally you would only have to prime any bare aluminum, after you prime then apply two top coats of a quality acrylic, you don't want to use oil base, oil base does not have the elasticity to expand and contract, so use a acrylic latex
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actually im going from white to brown . thanks for the info ...
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05-12-2010, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Mariani
Why do you think that METAL needs to have a paint that is flexible? I guess you need to inform the stupid car manufacturers.
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they use flexable paint on newer cars, not sure when it changed over but thats how you can get a ding and pop it back out.. older cars get a ding and the paint cracks.. I used to paint cars so I am aware of what they are using
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05-12-2010, 06:59 PM
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Remodeling Contractor
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Oh? I still get sold lacquer.. did not know they are now using Acrylic Latex for metal.... thanks for the update!
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05-13-2010, 03:40 AM
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paper hanger and painter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Mariani
Oh? I still get sold lacquer.. did not know they are now using Acrylic Latex for metal.... thanks for the update!
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There is not just the slightest touch of sarcasm there,is there?  
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05-13-2010, 12:54 PM
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Aluminum siding/trim is a different animal all together than painting a car. Also, a carmade of aluminum is painted differently than one made of steel. The industry standard is to wash thoroughly using a scrub brush and power washer if possible. Then go straight to paint with the first coat having emulsabond added to it. I stopped counting how many houses we have done like that and never have a callback for adhesion issues.
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05-13-2010, 07:27 PM
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Tired, Cold, and Damp
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Originally Posted by housepaintingny
Clean the aluminum well, use liquid tsp or similar product, rinse well,
Lightly sand it, to degloss the surface, you can use a medium sanding sponge, apply a quality bonding primer, such as DTM bonding primer, because you are going to a lighter color I would prime all of the aluminum, normally you would only have to prime any bare aluminum, after you prime then apply two top coats of a quality acrylic, you don't want to use oil base, oil base does not have the elasticity to expand and contract, so use a acrylic latex
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Yup...that's the way to go for sure
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05-13-2010, 07:30 PM
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Tired, Cold, and Damp
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Originally Posted by Bob Mariani
Why do you think that METAL needs to have a paint that is flexible? I guess you need to inform the stupid car manufacturers.
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Regardless, for this particular project the information you question is correct
Oil/Alkyd/Solvent primers are not the best solution for aluminum substrates
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