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Old 06-09-2012, 10:53 AM   #46
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This topic is beginning to spin out of control. SVS, you've gotten a lot of useful advise and info regarding the Valspar warning label. You're safe. Don't remove it - and, if you're satisfied with the finish, don't paint or prime over it for the sake of preventing any harmful exposure. It's not necessary. The label warns of exposure to crystalline silica, not mildewcides, and the crystalline silica is more of a hazard if inhaling sanding dust (from sanding a surface containing crystalline silica) or inhaling the mist caused from overspray...This particular warning is NOT limited to just exterior paints. Many interior paints, especially less expensive, apartment grade paints, have the exact same warnings pasted on their labels.

A well meaning government created "Right to know" legislation years ago that pretty much requires manufacturers to notify the consumer of any component that may have a detrimental effect to one's health, regardless of the probability. Right to know is a great way to protect consumers, but the process has got to the point of being ridiculous - that's why so many of the responders to this post have been having a little fun with the topic - If you were to purchase this same product in a 5 gallon can, you'd see a warning on the side of the plastic bucket warning of this container being a drowning hazard to small children - that's not to say a child will drown in this 5 gallon bucket, it just wouldn't be impossible...Consider the probabilities before taking any knee-jerk actions (Also consider the warning of the child's halloween super-hero costume warning parents that this cape will not enable a child to actually fly...)
WELL THAT SUCKS....I THOUGHT THAT MY NEW OUTFIT WITH THE COWBOY HAT & BOOTS, TASSLES AND CLEAR SPEEDOS WITH A CAPE WAS A SURE WAY TO SAVE MONEY VS. BUYING PLANE TICKETS. YOU RUIN EVERYTHING WITH YOUR LOGIC.
Now, you see? That's exactly the reason these warnings are necessary. I woulda thought that EVERYBODY knows cowboys can't fly - with or without a cape...
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I read through this whole thread and I had to join just to make a point nobody seemed to notice - if exterior paints released any kind of dangerous chemicals that could either cause respiratory or allergic reactions or even cause cancer... why on frigging Earth would anyone paint the inside OR OUTSIDE of their house with it??? I mean if there's a monster in that can that's gonna git ya, then don't use it anywhere at all.

To be clear, I think it's bunk and the paint companies just don't want you to use that half a can of exterior paint you already have in the closet on your bathroom ceiling... they want you to go to the store and buy more paint because that's their main job - to get you to buy more paint.
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I live in CA. Anyone else notice the cancer warnings about French fries in McDonalds? You have to look, but apparently it's something to be concerned about (unlike the rest of their food, WHICH DOESN'T ROT).

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It has been scientifically proven that living causes cancer.

Care to guess how many people read those warning signs? About as many people that pay attention to car alarms.

One other factoid, 79.35% of all statistics are made up.

And on a more serious note....for all the people that like to rag on California....it sure is nice seeing the mountains on a daily basis....even in the summer. When I got here 25 years ago...we had stage 2 & 3 smog alerts during the summer.

Now...they don't even mention the smog on the news. The smog here is better than DFW....in the summer, you can't even see either downtown when landing at DFW airport....and there are no mountains to sock in the smog.
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I read through this whole thread and I had to join just to make a point nobody seemed to notice - if exterior paints released any kind of dangerous chemicals that could either cause respiratory or allergic reactions or even cause cancer... why on frigging Earth would anyone paint the inside OR OUTSIDE of their house with it??? I mean if there's a monster in that can that's gonna git ya, then don't use it anywhere at all.

To be clear, I think it's bunk and the paint companies just don't want you to use that half a can of exterior paint you already have in the closet on your bathroom ceiling... they want you to go to the store and buy more paint because that's their main job - to get you to buy more paint.
You think you don't expose yourself to potentially harmful chemicals or elements in your everyday activities? Haven't you ever used hairspray? or spray paint? oven cleaner? had your clothes dry-cleaned? ever bought gas for your car? ever stood close to a car with the engine running? how 'bout standing (or living) close to high-voltage power lines? ever used a microwave? ever drank water from a plastic bottle? ever drank a diet soda? ever sprayed yourself with mosquito repellant? treated your house for ants? Want me to go on? ...and with everyone of these examples, you still knowingly consume these products regardless of the warnings.

Truth is exterior paints used to contain harmful elements (solvents, lead etc.) and sold to both an informed and ignorant consumer. Exterior paints were not recommended for interior use primarily due to the components used to ward off mold/mildew/bacteria etc. These ingredients may be brought to the surface of a paint film through common oxidation, but be washed away by the elements, such as rain, snow, heavy winds etc. You really don't get much of those elements on interior surfaces.

But just like all the examples I gave above, just because there are components in a product that has shown to cause allergic reactions or respiratory problems or even cancer, doesn't mean they will. Doesn't even mean they probably will. The warnings simply state that a component is present that could cause any of the above problems...or has shown to cause such problems in laboratory rats (not even necessarily any confirmed cases in humans).

None of this info really has anything to do with the OP's original question (which was from over a year ago, btw) and I think svs's question was answered properly and completely.

Representing the different manufacturers that I do, I kinda resent your statement that "...paint companies just don't want you to use that half a can of exterior paint you already have in the closet on your bathroom ceiling... they want you to go to the store and buy more paint because that's their main job - to get you to buy more paint..." Paint manufacturers want you to use the right product for your project. Believe it or not, there are many non-harmful components that go into a can of paint that make it a right choice for a ceiling (for example...your example). Those components that make a ceiling paint a ceiling paint are not in exterior paints, so why would the manufacturer recommend your leftover product for use on a ceiling? Likewise, there are components in exterior paints that are not present in ceiling paints - you really think it'd be in your, or the manufacturer's, best interest to recommend painting some of your weather exposed exterior siding with your leftover ceiling paint?

That was kind of a unfair charge toward paint manufacturers, don'tcha think?
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That was kind of a unfair charge toward paint manufacturers, don'tcha think?
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Nope.
Well, good. It's refreshing to see one stand their ground despite the fact they have absolutely no basis for - and no valid argument to support - their very generalized & prejudiced comments and beliefs.
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Well, good. It's refreshing to see one stand their ground despite the fact they have absolutely no basis for - and no valid argument to support - their very generalized & prejudiced comments and beliefs.

Just 1 opinion out of 316 million in the U.S. alone. I would not get wound up about it.
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Just 1 opinion out of 316 million in the U.S. alone. I would not get wound up about it.
nah...I'm not. I'm just having a little fun with Isomer - By the way, Isomer - Welcome to the forum and don't take my comments too seriously. Your posts are always welcome here though we may disagree a lot - but that's what makes this forum so much fun.
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Well put, Ric. The crystalline silica labelling is required by law, even though the content is less that a tenth of a percent. Exterior paint does have mildewcide that leaches out through the life of the paint, and it also is formulated differently than interior products. Paints labeled "interior/exterior" do not have mildewcide in them, and they are primary interior formulations. Hope that this helps.
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How can labeling as to known and scientifically proven cancer risk be considered irrelevant?
In the case of silica, what is silica?

Silica is most commonly found in nature as sand or quartz. It is a principal component of most types of glass and substances such as concrete.

There's sand everywhere, you go to the beach you are essentially walking on SILICA, silica causes silicosis in the lungs, and every human on the planet has some degree of it unless they live in the arctic or something, every farmer or person who lives near a gravel road or gets dust in their house from wind blowing over nearby lots and fields also gets some in the lungs.
Adding a gallon or two of paint to that lifetime of exposure is miniscule, it's like adding a gallon of water to a swimming pool.

The amount of silica in a gallon of paint varies between about 6 and 12%

Painting with a spray gun and sanding in preparation for re-painting were the activities determined to produce the greatest opportunity for exposure to airborne particles of respirable size.
Use a roller and brush, don't use a sprayer.

There's more to paint than JUST silica, additives to paints are another potential health risk. Preservatives and pesticides are added to kill mildew and bacteria. I'd worry more about the preservatives and pesticides added to the paint.
Before 1990, mercury was added as a mildew-inhibitor, mainly to latex paint.


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One of the things that always amazes me is that people who have never lived anywhere near California know so much about it
Yeah well, all the worst regulations and laws along with useless knee-jerk reactionary bills ever invented by the overpaid bureaucraps seem to originate in THAT state as we have learned over the decades. The MTBE gasoline additive California demanded be used in gasoline later was found contaminating ground water and drinking water, and the reformulated diesel they demanded be used ruined scores of truck engines.
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I'm going to hijack this thread just for a second....we have a 5-gallon bucket of paint that we never used for the exterior of the house (I overestimated BADLY). We are going to use some of it to paint the shed, but will still have about 3 gallons left over. So can I, or can I not use it indoors? I'm thinking our laundry room really needs a coat of paint and I'd hate for our 5-gallon purchase to go to waste. And yes, I've already tried selling it to no avail. [/hijack]
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I'm going to hijack this thread just for a second....we have a 5-gallon bucket of paint that we never used for the exterior of the house (I overestimated BADLY). We are going to use some of it to paint the shed, but will still have about 3 gallons left over. So can I, or can I not use it indoors? I'm thinking our laundry room really needs a coat of paint and I'd hate for our 5-gallon purchase to go to waste. And yes, I've already tried selling it to no avail. [/hijack]
As long as we're talking about latex products, you're good. Nothing to worry about. Even if it were oil products, you really wouldn't have anything to worry about except for the drying. Paint in peace.
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[QUOTE=ric knows paint;1215067]As long as we're talking about latex products, you're good. Nothing to worry about. Even if it were oil products, you really wouldn't have anything to worry about except for the drying. Paint in peace.[/QUOTE]


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