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Old 09-04-2007, 08:55 AM   #1
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Exterior Cedar Siding - Products & Procedures?


Hi everyone - posting for the first time after lurking for quite a while.

I'm about to close on a new home, and the first project I'd like to take care of before the winter rolls in is taking care of long neglected cedar siding, as well as a deck. My current house is all brick, so I've never had to deal with it before.

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Since it already has a solid-colored stain, I supposed I'm limited to using the same. My plan for going forward:

Siding:
-Clean off any badly stained areas
-Caulk all corners, windows, and doors
-Restain

Questions:
-Do I need to use primer?
-Should I pressure wash the siding, or do I risk water intrusion into the seams?
-What sort of applicator works best?
-What's your favorite or recommended brand of stain?
-There are some spots that require filling, particularly where a bird tried to peck its way in. What should be used to do this?

Can I use the same stain for the deck, after giving it a good pressure wash and replacing any badly cracked or warped boards?

I'd appreciate any other tips or suggestions. I'm experienced at painting indoors, but this is all new to me.

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Old 09-04-2007, 07:00 PM   #2
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Is that really cedar or is it T1-11? I always thought my house was cedar siding since it was originally stained and not painted. I had to replace a few pieces and brought it to 84 lumber. They said I had T1-11 with no grooves. I don't know if he was right or not. I primed it and painted it and it looked like the original.

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I can't say I'm absolutely positive, but I'm about 99% sure that it's cedar, and the home inspector agreed.
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It could be. I don't know. I was told mine was cedar as well. I guess it could be. I know all the trim pieces are cedar. I just went with the cheaper siding they had in stock and can't tell the difference.
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looking at the second pic I'd say yes it is cedar, not T1-11. You can see where the stain is coming off down to wood. I'd power wash it all but use a low pressure setting. And the correct cleaners of course. You shouldn't need primer if going with a solid stain. I'd put something like Sikkens Rubbol Solid Stain or Sikkens Rubbol Siding Finish on it. The first is oil and the second is acrylic. Since it's already got a coating and penetration isn't a huge issue I'd go with the Siding Finish. It has greater longevity. And get away from that gray color! A nice cedar tone would make a world of difference.
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Yeah that's a bit of a project there
Powerwash for sure
Might want to hire someone, you can damage the siding real good if you don't know how to do it right
If you DIY it, might want to rent a good one
(Those little DIY ones won't cut it, you'll need at least a $400 machine for it not to take 2 weeks)

Then see what's left
Scraping any loose stuff after PWing is going to be tough on this type of siding
Hopefully the PW will take care of most of it

I'd do no primer with a Sikkens Rubol solid stain/finish also
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Thanks for the responses everyone.

How about to patch up certain areas? Any product I can use as a filler?
Also - what's the best way to apply the stain to such a surface?
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Hi,

My company works on log and cedar structures. What we would do is corn blast the grey solid stain off, do a light wash to clean and sanitize the surfaces, caulk up any areas needed, stain with a 2 coat process of custom pigmented stain, then clear coat with UV guard. The cost varies per project but yours would run around $10K by the picture. If you DIY, I would suggest at least hiring out the corn blasting phase (rental and operation can be tricky) but after that you might be able to tackle the remaining processes depending on your experience. Let me know if you would like any other information. If not, Good luck with your home!
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How about to patch up certain areas? Any product I can use as a filler?
Holes?
Wood putty

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Also - what's the best way to apply the stain to such a surface?
Brush...big thick one

I'd consider spraying it also, but it would still have to be (well, should be) back brushed
Probably not worth the trouble and expense (masking, renting sprayer) to spray then still have to back brush...but I suppose if it was huge or real troublesome to apply with a brush it might be worth it
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Most solid stains are fairly forgiving. You could roll it on and back brush it to speed up the process but spraying would just be too much hassle.

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