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Old 03-07-2014, 02:20 PM   #16
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I'd like to bump for the answer to this question. The Flexio 590 is the one I was looking at, due to its lower price than the Graco guns.

I'd like to have the Graco, but its pretty expensive.

Not that much more.


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Old 03-07-2014, 08:19 PM   #17
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I would agree that the Graco cup sprayer is a good product. It is much more user friendly than the Wagner, sprays unthinned latex, and is easy to clean up.
If you mean the graco paint station 3900 or 2900 they will NOT shoot unthined latex. If you mean the trueshot yes it will but the cost is pretty prohibitive.
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i bought the Graco Magnum LTS17 couple years back. problem is that its really designed for decent size jobs. wouldnt want to use it to paint a 10' X 10' shed or wall, more trouble than its worth to clean up. so i knew i needed something smaller to use. i bought the wagner flexio 590 and glad i did. and for the $129.00 at lowes. with both the main sprayer and a detail setup its perfect. really like the fact that i can simply flip the lever on the front and go from wide spray to narrow in a second. and its so quite, sounds like a hair dryer.you can set it down with the main sprayer on it but the detail one is not. they should of thought of that. the only bad reviews i read was the dripping, and i think thats from not cleaning, or straining the paint. by the way i strained a can of latex paint form HomeDepot though some window screen. no thinning required. perfect. not bad on over spray either. they have another model with a separate housing with the blower inside but then you have a hose attached to something to trip over and bang into and drag around. now it would be nice if it came with a extension for the end but it probably doesnt have enough power for that. only time will tell how long it last. again it really quite.
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I'd like to bump for the answer to this question. The Flexio 590 is the one I was looking at, due to its lower price than the Graco guns.
My question was a bit rhetorical, because I already knew it was a HVLP sprayer.

There are more reasons to use a "mid size" sprayer like this.

For small jobs, spray cans were mentioned. But with cans, you are very limited in your paint selection. Latex is out, for example, as far as I know.

For larger jobs, it was mentioned that a bigger rig might be better. But this can be cost prohibitive, and also the overspray knocks it out of contention for a lot of indoor jobs, and some outdoor ones as well where you don't want the overspray.

Then roller and brush were mentioned. But some jobs would be too tedious with brush/roller. Something like lattice, for example. Or a brick fireplace that has deep joints, like this. Maybe hard to see in the pic, but those joints would just take forever with a brush, and would be impossible with a roller.
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again, go get the flexio 590. i think youll be happy with it.
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Old 07-06-2014, 12:53 PM   #21
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Just my opinion but I would look into the Graco X5 The cost is about double but again in my opinion you would be getting more than double the sprayer. Everything I have read on the Flexio says it has the same problems Wagner has always had it spits and splatters. The more you use it the more it splatters. The older ones if you didn't let it get over half empty It only spattered very little, but this meant refilling pretty frequently.

Also from what I have read in the reviews it really doesn't atomize the paint well. This means the paint coming out the nozzle are bigger than they should be. This could be the cause of the splatter and makes clean-up harder. From the two cites I read they both rated it at a little over 3 out of 5. Neither of these were Wagner sites they were consumer sites.

In the name of fairness I also checked the Graco x5 and the rating was 4.5 In my opinion it is a much more versatile unit and can be used easier and for more projects. Also you can work out of the bucket or can with out stopping to re-fill every few minutes. And if any larger projects EVER come up you will appreciate the versatility. Overspray was mentioned with the proper tips overspray is a non-issue. The difficulty of clean-up was mentioned, run a gallon of water thru it, remove the filter and swish it around in the bucket of water=done. What's the hard part?

Now again in the name of honesty I have not used either of these units. I have used Wagner units but not this model. I have used the smaller Graco units (Magnum 9). And I wouldn't trade my graco, which I still have and use for small jobs, for 50 Wagners.
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Comparing a Wagner Flexio to a Graco X5 is simply apples to oranges. You are comparing HVLP to airless, and they are just 2 different things.

Overspray and spray in the air are related to particle size and velocity. Yes, you get a finer spray with a high pressure airless sprayer, and you get larger particles with an HVLP. But that is not an advantage or disadvantage, it's just an attribute. Inside an occupied house without using a body suit and ventilator and covering everything in plastic, you don't want a fine spray making a cloud in the house, you want a larger particle size that won't get airborne. You don't want it to atomize the paint too well. That is the point of using this kind of sprayer. It is not just a question of overspray and tip size, it's a question of atomizing the paint into the air.

At the same time, many HVLP sprayers don't have the oomph to spray thick latex. The Flexio does. Yet you would certainly not use it to paint the entire outside of your house, for example. That is what airless sprayers are for. These are 2 different types of tools and while there is some overlap, they are meant for different jobs.
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Comparing a Wagner Flexio to a Graco X5 is simply apples to oranges. You are comparing HVLP to airless, and they are just 2 different things.

Overspray and spray in the air are related to particle size and velocity. Yes, you get a finer spray with a high pressure airless sprayer, and you get larger particles with an HVLP. But that is not an advantage or disadvantage, it's just an attribute. Inside an occupied house without using a body suit and ventilator and covering everything in plastic, you don't want a fine spray making a cloud in the house, you want a larger particle size that won't get airborne. You don't want it to atomize the paint too well. That is the point of using this kind of sprayer. It is not just a question of overspray and tip size, it's a question of atomizing the paint into the air.

At the same time, many HVLP sprayers don't have the oomph to spray thick latex. The Flexio does. Yet you would certainly not use it to paint the entire outside of your house, for example. That is what airless sprayers are for. These are 2 different types of tools and while there is some overlap, they are meant for different jobs.
I respectfully disagree with with your apples to oranges analogy as both are considered DIY sprayers. If I had compared the Flexio with a real HVLP 5 stage unit which will spray uncut latex and runs about $3000 then another $600 for a pressure pot setup that would be apples to oranges.

This statement is simply not true. With the correct equipment and the knowledge we are now painting trim ,crown, and baseboards. And although spraying in an occupied house is not something you want to do it is done.

Unless it's a very small job as stated the airless with different tips and sizes is a much more versatile tool. It will do the smaller jobs but if you ever want to do the side of your house or say a shed you don't need another tool.

And as for atomization yes smaller is better with a small tip and hold your gun closer you don't get the "splash back" for lack of a better term. This means less overspray and and the drops are small enough that at about 2' if there is any overspray it will be like dry fall.

All I'm saying is after using HVLP and airless both, my HVLP is in the garage in a box.
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jeffnc said it best. perfect.
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many HVLP sprayers don't have the oomph to spray thick latex. The Flexio does. yes it does. no problems, even doing it in 100 degree weather.
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If you found something you like and it works for you that's great. Not trying to change anybody's mind just another point of view.
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Hi group, I just bought one {flexio 590} used it two days (a couple hours a day) I sprayed pva primer on a bedroom ceiling 1.5 walls and a larger dining room, living room, spare area ceiling. I was using an lvlp (yes low volume low pressure) but that won't shoot a ceiling.

Here's my take:

1. The flexio is pretty powerful and can shoot a ceiling no problem.
2. Definitely more over spray than the lvlp.
3. Clean up was no more time than the lvlp - tooth brush, and a couple of tube cleaners would be helpful. I bought a harbor freight spray gun cleaning kit worth 5.00 for sure.
4. Only two issues... one is the first day I think the finish has a roller looking pebble finish I don't think I had it dialed in. second issue is if you let it sit a bit I got a splat of paint the first pull of the trigger, so I think I need more power I had it lower trying to avoid the over spray never shot it on full power which I'll try tomorrow.

At the worst case I get a roller like finish with a few splats here and there I did have a 3" roller handy to smooth out but I learned to pull the trigger and let the splat hit the canvas then start shooting the gun. Also, this used a lot more paint than the lvlp.

Didn't use the fine sprayer but will tomorrow. if you have questions let me know.

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