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Old 02-20-2012, 03:54 PM   #1
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I see everyone loves duration here. I used this in 3 rooms in my house and was kind of unsatisfied with my results. I am by no means a pro painter but have painted quite a bit. Was there possibly something wrong with my technique. I used purdy brush (XL-Dale), purdy roller covers (correct nap) (very keen on using good products) cut in with brush then, roll as close as I could to edges. I also primed the entire room with SW wall and wood primer, sand between primer and paint. I am soon going to be painting my upstairs bathroom and looking to try something else, but SW gives me 40% when the sale comes up. Could the issue I have be with something I did?
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Hey guys,

I see everyone loves duration here. I used this in 3 rooms in my house and was kind of unsatisfied with my results. I am by no means a pro painter but have painted quite a bit. Was there possibly something wrong with my technique. I used purdy brush (XL-Dale), purdy roller covers (correct nap) (very keen on using good products) cut in with brush then, roll as close as I could to edges. I also primed the entire room with SW wall and wood primer, sand between primer and paint. I am soon going to be painting my upstairs bathroom and looking to try something else, but SW gives me 40% when the sale comes up. Could the issue I have be with something I did?

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I have painted two deep colours and we find them to be hard to wash without leaving streaks and I can seem my brushmarks close to edges of corners and ceiling where i couldn't get my roller really close. The sheen on them was matte

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Just did a room in Duration and liked the results. Went with matte. Can't see brush strokes along the cuts. What were the other issues you had?
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Never have had a problem or have had a client have a problem where we have used Duration, but it does dry kind of fast and is best applied with two people. One person cutting and one person rolling behind him. You want to maintain that wet edge, but then again if any room is cut in prior to rolling with any paint and a wet edge is not maintained you will have problems. Never have had problems washing it either, as I have used it in my own house years ago.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:19 PM   #6
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how many top coats did you put on ? you said you primed did the colors you chose require a gray primer? if they didn't you probably could have skipped the prime coat imo.anywho 2 top coats for me is standard.as for duration home and all the other companies ultra paint i just don't see it .for years super paint was s/w top of the line paint and for me its my every day paint .today i was rolling super paint flat it was beautiful ,it has a slight angle sheen to add to its wash ability. can you scrub it ?no but who does anyways. ok now trim yep., give me that utra paint.walls imo not necessary
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We cleaned the walls today just to see. I did paint the room myself and cut in room the rolled. Not wet when I roll but never had issues like that before. I had to prime the room because I did alot of drywall work. I finsihed it with two coats cut in and everything. I maybe overworking my brush work but I can still see brush strokes in my finish coats.
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I've been using Sherwin-Williams' paints for 33 years. I AM NOT in love with Duration. For the price, it falls a bit short for me. I have had trouble with it covering some colors in two coats. That frustrates me. I prefer SuperPaint.........It's consistent......maybe not SW's very best, but, I know how it works and how it covers a wall. Definitely their workhorse paint.
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I wish people would do home work before running to the big name paint store or the box store. The low down on paint is Paint has three things pigments binders "that is your acrylics and latex" and solvents pretty much water there. The solvents evaporate and leave behind the pigment and binders. around 1.4 mils thick. That said paint has about a 15 life once applied. Now knowing that and if your like most people and money is a option like it is in the real world. There are other paints out there that will do just as well as any top price paint. Just need to do ones home work. Now with that said If money was no option SWP every day. for me its Parker or Kelley-moor or Pratt& Lambert AKA Sherwin Williams. at 50 percent less. Sometimes your paying for the name along with the paint.
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I wish people would do home work before running to the big name paint store or the box store. The low down on paint is Paint has three things pigments binders "that is your acrylics and latex" and solvents pretty much water there. The solvents evaporate and leave behind the pigment and binders. around 1.4 mils thick. That said paint has about a 15 life once applied. Now knowing that and if your like most people and money is a option like it is in the real world. There are other paints out there that will do just as well as any top price paint. Just need to do ones home work. Now with that said If money was no option SWP every day. for me its Parker or Kelley-moor or Pratt& Lambert AKA Sherwin Williams. at 50 percent less. Sometimes your paying for the name along with the paint.
Exactly what homework didn't he do? He bought top of the line paint! Maybe by choice, maybe by suggestion. Just because he paid top dollar for the paint and he wasn't happy with the finish doesn't mean he didn't do his homework. What if he was using KM instead of SW? Maybe there is no KM store around him.
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Exactly what homework didn't he do? He bought top of the line paint! Maybe by choice, maybe by suggestion. Just because he paid top dollar for the paint and he wasn't happy with the finish doesn't mean he didn't do his homework. What if he was using KM instead of SW? Maybe there is no KM store around him.
It appears to me that you get up set and almost take it personally when some one even hints that there are better paints out there then SWP almost like you work for them and if some one buy something else it is taking food out of your kids mouths.
All i did was point out paints that have just a good quality at less cost every one wants to save money. Yes you get what pay for in paint that is a fact. as long as a person does not go super cheap like under 32 per gallon then they have bought a good paint.
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It appears to me that you get up set and almost take it personally when some one even hints that there are better paints out there then SWP almost like you work for them and if some one buy something else it is taking food out of your kids mouths.
All i did was point out paints that have just a good quality at less cost every one wants to save money. Yes you get what pay for in paint that is a fact. as long as a person does not go super cheap like under 32 per gallon then they have bought a good paint.
I don't get upset at all over people using other paints. In the decades of experience that I have I've used all kinds of paints. SWP, Ben Moore, PPG, Duron, Glidden, Porter, Martha Stewart, Sears, Wal-Mart, Dulux. The list goes on however some were not used by choice. I've never had the opportunity to use KM paint as it is not even in the tri-state area of where I live but that is not the issue you brought up. You've continued to bash people for using SW paints because they are more expensive than your Kelly Moore paints which most states do not even carry.

On another note, I totally disagree with you about not choosing a paint under $32.00 a gallon. This depends on the application. Perfect example, I use a ceiling paint that runs $17.00 a gallon and I've NEVER had a single issue or complaint from using it. It covers great, it hides and it's just good stuff.

Lastly, I recommend SW because that is what I use 90% of the time and that is what I have great success with.
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Fellas,

Just as a note I didn't want this to be an argument about which paints were better, but possibly issues with my techniques. Just saying...
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Fellas,

Just as a note I didn't want this to be an argument about which paints were better, but possibly issues with my techniques. Just saying...
Reg, make sure you lube up that roller sleeve. I see people paint all the time & they barely get enough paint on the roller to put on the wall. Make sure it is full of paint, almost to the point of dripping wet. Having brush marks could be the same problem......you need plenty of paint in/on your brush before hitting the wall.
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I don't get upset at all over people using other paints. In the decades of experience that I have I've used all kinds of paints. SWP, Ben Moore, PPG, Duron, Glidden, Porter, Martha Stewart, Sears, Wal-Mart, Dulux. The list goes on however some were not used by choice. I've never had the opportunity to use KM paint as it is not even in the tri-state area of where I live but that is not the issue you brought up. You've continued to bash people for using SW paints because they are more expensive than your Kelly Moore paints which most states do not even carry.

On another note, I totally disagree with you about not choosing a paint under $32.00 a gallon. This depends on the application. Perfect example, I use a ceiling paint that runs $17.00 a gallon and I've NEVER had a single issue or complaint from using it. It covers great, it hides and it's just good stuff.

Lastly, I recommend SW because that is what I use 90% of the time and that is what I have great success with.
I don't bash SWP It is a great paint I simply point out other paints that can do the same at a lower cost and maybe those people don't know about those. I am sure in the tri state area you have great regional paints that I would love to use but can't get too.
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