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clubjuggler 11-11-2009 02:34 PM

Does a newly skimcoated ceiling need painting?
 
I just had a ceiling skimcoated to cover up some poor patches and repairs left by a previous homeowner. The contractor did a great looking job and used a brush to create a slight texture to the finish on the ceiling. He used standard joint compound. I was talking to him about my next steps for priming the ceiling and he told me it might not be necessary to even paint the ceiling at all. When dry, the finish would be just as bright white as a painted surface.

This sounded too good to be true. My question then.... Is it necessary to paint the textured surface to somehow seal it up and/or prevent crumbling, dust or flaking off of the joint compound later? Or am I really just wasting my time priming the textured ceiling and then painting it white for no visible change in the end?

Bob Mariani 11-11-2009 04:21 PM

yes you need to paint it. the paint protects from UV rays and moisture in the air.

Anti-wingnut 11-11-2009 04:41 PM

A painted surface is also easier to clean, more resistant to dust, and a harder surface

user1007 11-12-2009 07:12 PM

And you should definitely prime it first!

bjbatlanta 11-13-2009 04:11 PM

As a rule in new construction, textured ceilings are not painted. (It saves the builder money.) You CAN leave it as-is, but I would paint if it were mine.......

Anti-wingnut 11-15-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjbatlanta (Post 352706)
As a rule in new construction, textured ceilings are not painted. (It saves the builder money.) You CAN leave it as-is, but I would paint if it were mine.......

Are you saying that as a rule of thumb, that standard hopper fed knock-down textures as used on residential walls and ceilings, that the cielings are not painted? I have never seen that to be the case.

Matthewt1970 11-15-2009 01:02 PM

They do it around here all the time.

bjbatlanta 11-15-2009 02:19 PM

Acoustical spray (popcorn) and stipple are not painted, as a rule, around here. I've never seen knockdown used with the exception of a couple of modular homes I did the drywall repairs on after the two halves were fastened together. I would guess that was painted since what I did was not a color match for what came from the factory.

Bob Mariani 11-16-2009 10:41 AM

The main reason for popcorn and some textured ceilings is to cut costs and speed production in basic spec new home construction. this is why they do not paint it. but here we are offering advice to DIY'ers that are normally not building a new spec home. So as mentioned... painting is not required, but has advantages. Priming prior to texturing should always be done.

Anti-wingnut 11-16-2009 10:47 AM

If you read the OP, the ceiling was skim coated. That means it was covered by drywall mud, not a popcorn ceiling. Bare drywall mud should be painted

Bob Mariani 11-16-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-wingnut (Post 353747)
If you read the OP, the ceiling was skim coated. That means it was covered by drywall mud, not a popcorn ceiling. Bare drywall mud should be painted

Which is what I suggested to the OP>.. last comment was directed at your response to bjatlanta's comments. And to clarify the entire thread.

Anti-wingnut 11-16-2009 10:56 AM

I wasn't clear Bob, I was not directing my responce towards you. Bj brought up specious comments about popcorn textures, when with careful reading, one could discern that such comments were not applicable in this context.

Especially for someone who claims to be a drywall contractor

Anti-wingnut 11-16-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubjuggler (Post 351837)
He used standard joint compound.

:wallbash: Maybe I was being charitable when I said "with careful reading"

bjbatlanta 11-16-2009 05:02 PM

Anti-wingnut,
The OP said the contractor "used a brush to create a texture in the mud". Sounds similar to the stipple I referred to where thinned "standard joint compound" is rolled on the ceiling and "blopped" with a brush. I never said "standard hopper fed knock down textures" should not be painted. I referred to acoustical spray and stipple, ONLY, in my second post for clarification. I also mentioned knock-down is not used in this area except for modular homes. In fact, I've never seen wall texture used at all except for a bar or restaurant around here. I also stated in my first post that I would paint it if it were mine. I'm a drywall contractor (I've probably forgotten more about drywall than you know), not a painting contractor. If the general contractor (or a homeowner) decides not to paint after texture, it's their call. Maybe you need to do a little more "careful reading"........

Rcon 11-20-2009 03:09 AM

Whether texture or flat, ceilings should be painted, or at least primed. Raw mud will become brittle with time if untreated - and you will end up with bits of ceiling in your soup.

The longer you put it off, the more difficult it becomes to prime/paint - because once the mud goes brittle, backrolling (which evens the appearance of the topcoat) will peel the ceiling off in sheets. I've seen it happen before.


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